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re: Teenager killed knocking on wrong door
Posted on 7/19/16 at 7:26 am to FLObserver
Posted on 7/19/16 at 7:26 am to FLObserver
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 7:42 am to FLObserver
You have poor reading comprehension skills. He put no words in your mouth he said you left out key info in your post
Posted on 7/19/16 at 7:45 am to Darth_Vader
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you take the time to read on down into the story it says the guy fired when one of his windows broke in.
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Lovell initially tried to communicate with the teenager knocking on his door, prosecutors said. But then he snapped.
“When a pane of glass broke, the suspect fired a single shot, striking the victim,” according to the statement from the Hampden DA’s office
I'd think someone was breaking in as well at that point
Laws up there are different. You can't just shoot a someone breaking and entering. They have to pose a threat to your life, not just your property. By their standards, this was murder.
This post was edited on 7/19/16 at 7:51 am
Posted on 7/19/16 at 7:48 am to Spaceman Spiff
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Seems as if the OP left an important part out of the description...the whole thing about breaking in and all
Was the kid ever even in the house though? If not, it is vandalism. If he's in the house, it's breaking and entering.
Again, laws up there don't allow you to just fire on someone like you cold in Louisiana.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 7:48 am to Darth_Vader
You're not supposed to shoot through doors.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 8:03 am to beauchristopher
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've had a random stranger come into my house at 3 am in the morning.. Was so weird. He looked at me then just crashed on my couch.. He had the wrong house. He was clearly intoxicated.. At first I was shocked but I quickly could tell he was no threat... So I went next door to where he meant to go and got his friends to come get him. He kept saying how he could have been shot,
He had left his truck parked in the middle of the road door open, keys, and phone in it I believe.. I'll never forget how weird it was initially seeing a guy I never knew just come in and go straight for the couch
He's right he could have been. If just simply being intoxicated makes him do that, maybe he needs to not drink. I'm sure he realizes how stupid it would have been if he did get shot being a drunk idiot.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 8:04 am to TejasPete
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I think everyone has walked into the wrong house / condo at some point during their high school or college years.
Ughhhh.....no.
My parent taught me to knock and not just barge into somebody's place. Think they called it manners?
I've knocked on the wrong door before, but that's the whole point behind knocking.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 8:10 am to brass2mouth
My mom was banging on the wrong condo door last month. With the regular "Come on you assholes let me in" Same number, Wrong floor
Posted on 7/19/16 at 8:13 am to Napoleon
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You're not supposed to shoot through doors.
This goes back to the topic yesterday about gun ownership and whether or not it is a net benefit for every individual.
I've got little doubt that there are gun owners who want an excuse to use one to defend themselves. Not saying that was the case here, but there are people who are jealous of this guy's opportunity.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 8:15 am to Tigerpaw123
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Similar incident in BR
Not really. Those boys were walking away and the guy came out and shot the exchange student.
The shooter's defense might be the worst ever. "a man just like the jury members' neighbors, a man who "liked sugar in his grits"
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 8:17 am to slackster
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I've got little doubt that there are gun owners who want an excuse to use one to defend themselves. Not saying that was the case here, but there are people who are jealous of this guy's opportunity.
Ugh.
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slackster
Of fricking course it is you that says that.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 8:20 am to AwesomeSauce
I think you got your facts mixed up in the yoshi case
Posted on 7/19/16 at 8:22 am to Itismemc
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My mom was banging on the wrong condo door last month. With the regular "Come on you assholes let me in" Same number, Wrong floor
She should have been shot.
-the OT
Posted on 7/19/16 at 8:25 am to LNCHBOX
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Ugh
Top of the morning to ya.
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Of fricking course it is you that says that
Other people said something similar in the thread yesterday. Are you really going to deny that there are gun owners (think open carry types) who would love to have a "justifiable" reason to shoot someone?
The Joe Horn case in Texas is a great example.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 8:28 am to slackster
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The Joe Horn case in Texas is a great example.
Is it though?
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On the 911 tape, he is heard confronting the suspects, saying, "Move, and you're dead",[3] immediately followed by the sound of a shotgun blast, followed by two more.[4] Following the shootings Mr. Horn told the 911 operator, "They came in the front yard with me, man, I had no choice!"[5]
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Pasadena police confirmed that the two men were shot after they ventured into Horn's front yard
Posted on 7/19/16 at 8:32 am to FLObserver
Well, a dorbell camera or just a simple WiFi camera costs under $50.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 8:32 am to FLObserver
Massachusetts is so retarded. It sounds like I could strap a go pro to my head, kick in someone's door, loudly proclaim I do not intend to harm anybody, then start grabbing shite and either get out without incident, or press charges against the homeowner if he shoots me.
fricking liberals.
fricking liberals.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 8:34 am to FLObserver
How does someone go about "accidentally" knocking so hard the glass on the window breaks? I lived in the fraternity house, so I've seen drunk people break things, but it's never been "on accident". It still takes way more force than reasonable even when you're drunk
Posted on 7/19/16 at 8:39 am to LNCHBOX
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Is it though?
Yes, it is. He had no choice after he ignored the dispatcher's request to stay inside and went out to confront the burglars himself.
Look, I'm not going to excuse the teenager or the burglars, and I'm not really trying to debate the legality of the shooting because that is settled. However, I do take issue when deadly force is used and a threat to life is not imminent and/or is reasonably avoidable.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 8:41 am to slackster
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Yes, it is.
Based off the facts, I don't agree.
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He had no choice after he ignored the dispatcher's request to stay inside and went out to confront the burglars himself.
I hope my neighbors protect my property as well and Mr. Horn did.
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However, I do take issue when deadly force is used and a threat to life is not imminent and/or is reasonably avoidable.
Oh, we know you take issue.
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