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Taylor Hall expansion, renovation at LSU behind schedule due to contract dispute

Posted on 3/2/15 at 7:24 pm
Posted by urinetrouble
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 7:24 pm
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The LSU College of Engineering’s $110 million expansion/renovation of Patrick F. Taylor Hall is running behind schedule, after contract negotiations between the state and the project’s originally selected construction manager—a joint venture of global construction giant Skanska and locally owned MAPP Construction—fell through.

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Though there was no guarantee Skanska-MAPP would continue as construction manager during the project’s building phase, a deal to do so had been expected. However, in negotiating the contract over actual construction costs, Skanska-MAPP came back several million dollars over the project’s $88 million budget, state officials say.

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State officials are now negotiating with The Lemoine Company, which was the second-lowest bidder on the project last year, to be the new construction manager. Moses says he is optimistic the two sides will reach an agreement and that groundbreaking can begin in April or May.



So reading between the lines: it sounds to me like this was one of those CM At-Risk projects where they got a group of contractors to place a Guaranteed Maximum Price based on an incomplete scope and chose the lowest bidder? And when the scope got better defined, it turns out the lowest bidder didn't have an appropriate contingency?

Anybody have any additional insight?
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 7:49 pm
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41584 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 7:25 pm to
quote:

Taylor Hall


you misspelled CEBA
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 7:35 pm to
Posted by TigahRag
Sorting Out OT BS Since 2005
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 7:40 pm to
Gee !! The lowest bidder you picked pounded you with change orders that now has their total higher than that of the second lowest bidder ? Imagine that !! fricking idiots ..
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19239 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 7:43 pm to
Why people cling to the name CEBA is beyond me. People would rather celebrate a generic name for a building than praise Patrick Taylor, one of the most badass oil men ever.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
21953 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 7:45 pm to
Hello, can you remove all but 2-3 paragraphs? There is too much copy and paste. Thanks
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
29148 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 7:45 pm to
Sounds like a typical state construction job. Over budget, behind schedule and trying to reneg on the contract and price they agreed to. In this case, before they've even started.
Posted by Ping Pong
LSU and UVA alum
Member since Aug 2014
5346 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 7:47 pm to
quote:

Taylor Hall


CEBA 4 LIFE
Posted by urinetrouble
Member since Oct 2007
20503 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 7:50 pm to
quote:

Gee !! The lowest bidder you picked pounded you with change orders that now has their total higher than that of the second lowest bidder ? Imagine that !! fricking idiots ..


Well, I guess what I'm wondering is how complete were the construction documents that they bid on. It doesn't sound like they were even close to 100% complete.
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 7:53 pm to
quote:

you misspelled CEBA

Yeah I thought this was about the dorm Taylor Hall at first
Posted by urinetrouble
Member since Oct 2007
20503 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 8:13 pm to
quote:

you misspelled CEBA



I still say CEBA, but times have changed.
Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
35538 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 8:30 pm to
I feel bad for all of the students who were relocated to crappier buildings this semester to make room for this. If I were taking a portion of my senior classes in Lockett that would have been in CEBA, I would not be a happy camper right now.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67006 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 8:41 pm to
Sounds like a typical MAPP job. Lemoine is easily the superior contractor.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48829 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 8:48 pm to
Neither one are worth a shite.

Urine that's what it was but they had an agreement in place. For the most part it was Skansca and Mapp being greedy.
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55358 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 8:57 pm to
And its the Library. Nobody said Middleton. Who is Patrick Taylor?
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 8:59 pm to
quote:

For the most part it was Skansca and Mapp being greedy.


I'll leave it at this. But the quoted text is basically what happened.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48829 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:01 pm to
He owned Taylor Energy and created TOPS. He started out working for John Mecom who was the original owner of the Saints and gave it to his kid.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:02 pm to
quote:

And its the Library. Nobody said Middleton. Who is Patrick Taylor?


Troy Middleton deserves more honor on campus than that abomination.

Taylor is an LSU engineering alum who founded Taylor Energy and passed away a few years ago. At the time he was the wealthiest LA resident. His widow gave $15M to the renovation of the bldg with his name on it. He also championed the TOPS program.
Posted by Wooly
Member since Feb 2012
13851 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:04 pm to
Was about to say wtf is Taylor hall? You mean CEBA
Posted by TigerBandTuba
Member since Sep 2006
2541 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:05 pm to
quote:

you misspelled CEBA
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