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Talked to my PCP about COVID breakthrough cases
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:17 am
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:17 am
Warning: potentially triggering vaccine post.
Full disclosure: My wife and I were vaccinated back in March/April. I don’t believe vaccines should be mandated. I understand and respect why some have reservations about the vaccine. I do think you should strongly consider being vaccinated if you haven’t already (not only for your sake, but your community’s sake.) Overall though, it’s important you make a well-informed decision based on reliable information (not anecdotal evidence) and learn to parse through disinformation. One of the easiest ways to do this is to just talk to your doctor.
I had my annual wellness check this a couple mornings ago with my PCP (who is one of the smartest guys I know.) During our visit, we discussed the Covid delta variant and our upcoming trip to the Rose Bowl and Disneyland. I asked “is it really true delta is infecting the vaccinated?”
First, he is of the mindset that every eligible person should be vaccinated—same opinion as my wife’s doctor and my kids’ pediatrician. He said yes it’s true, there have been some people who are vaccinated test positive for Covid; but, the data is still consistent and well within the 95% effective rate of the vaccine. 95% means 1 of every 20 can still get Covid, post vaccine. (Data suggests it’s even less than that). This equally means 19 of every 20 likely won’t. He also said for the 5% that are testing positive, their cases and symptoms are very mild compared to the unvaccinated. He said the ones being admitted to the hospitals in critical condition are the non-vaccinated.
Now, even if that last part is questionable, 95% is still great odds.
My point is this: if you’re on the fence about the vaccine don’t take my word or your friends word for it. Talk to your primary care physician or a doctor you know and can trust. Discuss your reservations and concerns with a board-certified trained medical expert. They’re the ones studying the data and reports, and who are the best trained to interpret/understand the data and give you sound medical advice. Not your buddy, a colleague, a politician or the internet.
Yes I think you should get vaccinated. People are dying. A sniffle for you might equal a ventilator for your neighbor. But again don’t listen to me; ask your MD what’s best for you.
Full disclosure: My wife and I were vaccinated back in March/April. I don’t believe vaccines should be mandated. I understand and respect why some have reservations about the vaccine. I do think you should strongly consider being vaccinated if you haven’t already (not only for your sake, but your community’s sake.) Overall though, it’s important you make a well-informed decision based on reliable information (not anecdotal evidence) and learn to parse through disinformation. One of the easiest ways to do this is to just talk to your doctor.
I had my annual wellness check this a couple mornings ago with my PCP (who is one of the smartest guys I know.) During our visit, we discussed the Covid delta variant and our upcoming trip to the Rose Bowl and Disneyland. I asked “is it really true delta is infecting the vaccinated?”
First, he is of the mindset that every eligible person should be vaccinated—same opinion as my wife’s doctor and my kids’ pediatrician. He said yes it’s true, there have been some people who are vaccinated test positive for Covid; but, the data is still consistent and well within the 95% effective rate of the vaccine. 95% means 1 of every 20 can still get Covid, post vaccine. (Data suggests it’s even less than that). This equally means 19 of every 20 likely won’t. He also said for the 5% that are testing positive, their cases and symptoms are very mild compared to the unvaccinated. He said the ones being admitted to the hospitals in critical condition are the non-vaccinated.
Now, even if that last part is questionable, 95% is still great odds.
My point is this: if you’re on the fence about the vaccine don’t take my word or your friends word for it. Talk to your primary care physician or a doctor you know and can trust. Discuss your reservations and concerns with a board-certified trained medical expert. They’re the ones studying the data and reports, and who are the best trained to interpret/understand the data and give you sound medical advice. Not your buddy, a colleague, a politician or the internet.
Yes I think you should get vaccinated. People are dying. A sniffle for you might equal a ventilator for your neighbor. But again don’t listen to me; ask your MD what’s best for you.
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Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:18 am to jbraua
I'm sure this will be the post that convinces them.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:19 am to jbraua
95% effectiveness against infection? Your doctor is uninformed. It is universally accepted at this point that the vaccinations provide less protection against infection than that
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:19 am to jbraua
Seems like the Delta has morphed to avoid the vaccine, correct?
This post was edited on 7/31/21 at 9:20 am
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:20 am to heatom2
Sheep
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:21 am to jbraua
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. One of the easiest ways to do this is to just talk to your doctor.
Most people's docs can't see them for a few months so not sure how you think this is easiest. I work in Healthcare btw with Covid patients and was going to wait longer on the vaccine. My work just pressured me into it so I went ahead and got it being it's going to be mandatory soon any way. Weird how people are going around trying to convince others to take a vaccine. Would do incredible things for lung cancer if people did this with smoking.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:22 am to joshnorris14
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Your doctor is uninformed
Is he? According to who?
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:23 am to jbraua
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He also said for the 5% that are testing positive, their cases and symptoms are very mild compared to the unvaccinated.
How mild compared to the unvaccinated who receive early HCQ, zpac, zinc, d3, or stromectol?
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:23 am to joshnorris14
All our covid patients and deaths for the last 3 weeks have all been vaccinated. Something is going on in the reporting….. Yes, they have a lot of co-morbidity, but you’d think there would be some that were unvaccinated
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:25 am to heatom2
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I'm sure this will be the post that convinces them.
It’s like I’m looking into the mirror. I don’t care if you get vaccinated or not, I’m just SOOOO FRIGGEN tired of hearing about it from everyone all the time.
Why does everyone think they owe it to the world to give their opinion on it?
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:26 am to Prominentwon
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Is he? According to who?
The nature of my statement is that he is uninformed according to me based on relevant and readily available data.
This is why Phizer is beginning to advocate a 3rd booster to combat "breakthrough cases" allegedly stemming from the Delta Variant.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:32 am to jbraua
Your post is well-intended…but…
It baffles me that people can’t understand why others wouldn’t want a shot. For years, media and politics have tried to drive a wedge into this nation. You’re on one side, or the other. There’s no in between. Once something becomes political, half the country will be for it and the other half against.
Now, our overlords want unity. “We are in this together. Do this for your family and neighbor.” Those idiots have spent decades creating and manufacturing hate within our country, and now we are supposed to instantly stop and come together? bullshite.
It baffles me that people can’t understand why others wouldn’t want a shot. For years, media and politics have tried to drive a wedge into this nation. You’re on one side, or the other. There’s no in between. Once something becomes political, half the country will be for it and the other half against.
Now, our overlords want unity. “We are in this together. Do this for your family and neighbor.” Those idiots have spent decades creating and manufacturing hate within our country, and now we are supposed to instantly stop and come together? bullshite.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:33 am to jbraua
Every one of these everyone should be vaccinated post I ask the same thing. I've had Covid where is the evidence that large amounts of people are getting it a 2nd time and not once has that info been provided. Until then can we change this to if you haven't had Covid or been vaccinated you should consider being vaccinated?
This post was edited on 7/31/21 at 9:36 am
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:35 am to jbraua
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A sniffle for you might equal a ventilator for your neighbor.
So my neighbor should have been vaccinated.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:35 am to LEASTBAY
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Would do incredible things for lung cancer if people did this with smoking.
This is a bad analogy and not even a proper comparison. One persons lung cancer can’t be spread to another human. There is no need to developer heard immunity to lung cancer. Lung cancer affects the person who made the choices, not others they come in contact with.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:35 am to joshnorris14
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is uninformed according to me based on relevant and readily available data.
In other words, you can’t be or don’t want to be convinced that it’s not a population killer or immediate death if you take the vaccine?
Your mind can’t be changed. Period. Your bias is so incredibly strong that not even a qualified doctor, that’s been dealing with hundreds, if not thousands of patients, with Covid and have seen, first hand, the results between vaccinated and non vaccinated is enough for you to even consider the information at hand.
Social media/internet information is vastly superior than what has been done and seen on the ground? What makes you think your information is superior to an experienced doctor? Would you go in and tell him he’s wrong about any other ailment because you read it on social media/the internet?
I just don’t understand the logic.
This post was edited on 7/31/21 at 9:49 am
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:37 am to TexasTiger08
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Now, our overlords want unity. “We are in this together. Do this for your family and neighbor.” Those idiots have spent decades creating and manufacturing hate within our country, and now we are supposed to instantly stop and come together?
What happens when the vaccine is FDA approved?
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:39 am to jbraua
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Yes I think you should get vaccinated. People are dying. A sniffle for you might equal a ventilator for your neighbor. But again don’t listen to me; ask your MD what’s best for you.
A sniffle from a vaccinated person could also put your unvaccinated neighbors in the hospital. Symptomatic people should be cognizant of their symptoms too. I totally agree that vaccine provides GREAT personal protection but it’s clear that Covid is going to hang around even with high vaccination rates. I’m just curious what that will mean in the long run.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:39 am to jbraua
My office is getting a lot of vaccinated, covid positive symptomatic patients walking through out door... not just some. Take that for what it’s worth.
When someone walks into my room and immediately tells me whether they’re vaccinated or not, I just tell them cool beans and go about my business.
Do you.
When someone walks into my room and immediately tells me whether they’re vaccinated or not, I just tell them cool beans and go about my business.
Do you.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:39 am to jbraua
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1 of every 20 can still get Covid, post vaccine.
I got the vaccine in March, 2021. Contracted Covid beginning of July this year, mild symptoms like fever for 24 hours, sinus congestion (still have some today), loss of some stamina and loss of taste and smell that is more severe in the mornings and comes back throughout the day. I know who and where I contracted it from, mu brother who is non vaxxed, because he came down with covid approx 5 days before my symptoms appeared. He had a rough time with the after affects and his lung capacity is still affecting his ability to perform maintenance around his home.I actually got accused of making this story up, as I related the same thing in another thread, yesterday.
I believe that person thought I was trying to convince them to get vaccinated, however, I was simply relating my experience. As your doctor stated, my symptoms were mild as compared to my brothers. That is all, nothing more. And as you stated, people need not rely on FB, or even my comments. Think for yourself!
This post was edited on 7/31/21 at 9:59 am
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