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re: St. Louis King of France (BR) school to close at end of academic year
Posted on 9/22/17 at 6:22 pm to Brummy
Posted on 9/22/17 at 6:22 pm to Brummy
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Likely a casualty of location. Nobody wants to drive to NBR anymore
Like Redemptorist, they lost a lot of their potential market when Central and Zachary established decent school districts.
They went with vouchers for a while but that clearly just delayed the inevitable.
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 6:24 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Priests work weekends and nights. Their down time is during the day.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 6:24 pm to member12
Most of the NBR catholic school issues started when Zachary and Central broke off from the EBR public school system and parents didn't need to send their kids to a private school to get a good education,
Posted on 9/22/17 at 6:27 pm to Tigeralum2008
I was there for one year, but I didn't mind being there. Sad day for me.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 6:27 pm to jdeval1
It's definitely gone downhill from what it was 25 years ago, but if you give me the option of walking at night down N. Sherwood/Choctaw or Plank/Hollywood, that's an easy choice.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 6:28 pm to LSUAlum2001
How many students are currently attending STM? Kindergarten thru 8th grade
Posted on 9/22/17 at 6:31 pm to Tigeralum2008
Being in a shite location on north Sherwood Forest had more to do with it than any priest shortage.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 6:32 pm to Brummy
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Were they still playing there? I used to play there in the summers when I was younger, but I thought they shut those leagues down in the late 90s.
Last season was this year
Posted on 9/22/17 at 6:35 pm to Kramer26
They have ~580.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 6:36 pm to LSUAlum2001
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when Zachary and Central broke off from the EBR public school system and parents didn't need to send their kids to a private school to get a good education,
Yep. Both schools used to get a lot of students from those communities. The next generation in those communities are going to the new public school districts in Zachary and Central respectively.
If you live in the immediate area and want a good private school or a Catholic education, STM is a great choice. It's the stronger school in the better neighborhood and wealthier Parish.
Not to knock them (St Louis or Redemptorists) but they were never elite academies or prep schools. They were just an alternative to the bad public school options - which Zachary and Central changed.
It's hard to justify tuition for an good but unexceptional school 10 miles away when there is a good public school just down the street. Some smaller private schools in south EBR will start struggling when St George gets set up....unless they can figure out how to providing new value.
False River Academy in New Roads is facing the same struggle. They are not competitive with the growing Catholic school in town and the public STEM Academy is siphoning off a lot of their students. They are the far weaker of the two private schools in the area. They will probably be closed within 24 months.
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 6:40 pm
Posted on 9/22/17 at 6:39 pm to member12
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Not to knock them (St Louis or Redemptorists) but they were never elite academies or prep schools. They were just an alternative to the bad public school options - which Zachary and Central changed.
When I was there, you didn't have a whole lot of people from Central, and I don't remember anyone who lived in Zachary.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 6:43 pm to c on z
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When I was there, you didn't have a whole lot of people from Central, and I don't remember anyone who lived in Zachary.
I grew up in Central and tons of kids from the area went to Redemptorist. My parents sent me and my siblings to Central Private because of the busing. I'm surprised that school is still hanging on.
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 9/22/17 at 6:49 pm to Jtigers99
Not surprised. Those of us in the parish figured this day would come at some point. The current demographics of the parish simply can't sustain what the parish once was, especially given the current priest shortage. Same problem that closed Redemptorist.
I graduated from St. Louis in 2010, and in terms of enrollment, teacher quality and consistency, and campus safety, it was a completely different school when I started there in 2002 compared to 2010.
Enrollment plummeted while I was there from about 600 to less than 300, and we took on an increasing number of voucher students. Lots of teachers left or retired, so turnover was very high. I came into high school woefully underprepared in science because we had no steady curriculum in those subjects with so many science teachers leaving every year. It got so bad by my 7th and 8th grade year that the principal herself had to teach a lot of our science and math classes after those positions couldn't be filled. We had a lot of great, hard-working teachers that sacrificed a lot to keep our school functional, at least while I was there, and to them I will always be grateful. They made the best of a hopeless situation, in many respects.
We still have one of the best gyms in the diocese, along with good softball fields. Hopefully something can be made of those, even though the school itself will close. Father Alello is a very sharp guy, so I trust any course of action he and the diocese choose to take.
I graduated from St. Louis in 2010, and in terms of enrollment, teacher quality and consistency, and campus safety, it was a completely different school when I started there in 2002 compared to 2010.
Enrollment plummeted while I was there from about 600 to less than 300, and we took on an increasing number of voucher students. Lots of teachers left or retired, so turnover was very high. I came into high school woefully underprepared in science because we had no steady curriculum in those subjects with so many science teachers leaving every year. It got so bad by my 7th and 8th grade year that the principal herself had to teach a lot of our science and math classes after those positions couldn't be filled. We had a lot of great, hard-working teachers that sacrificed a lot to keep our school functional, at least while I was there, and to them I will always be grateful. They made the best of a hopeless situation, in many respects.
We still have one of the best gyms in the diocese, along with good softball fields. Hopefully something can be made of those, even though the school itself will close. Father Alello is a very sharp guy, so I trust any course of action he and the diocese choose to take.
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 6:53 pm
Posted on 9/22/17 at 6:57 pm to Michael Stein
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Enrollment plummeted while I was there from about 600 to less than 300, and we took on an increasing number of voucher students.
So basically the private school version of forced bussing destroyed the school?
Posted on 9/22/17 at 7:00 pm to LSUAlum2001
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They have ~580
The enrollment at STM in the late 90s was around 1,070 students. They should easily be able to take in every student from St Louis if STMs current enrollment is around 580 students.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 7:00 pm to Tigeralum2008
Hopefully, St. Clement of Rome is safe...
Posted on 9/22/17 at 7:14 pm to CP3
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This also brings an end to one of BRs finest recreational softball leagues (and field).
This!! I played in that league, wish I could remember the name of the team. Good memories of softball and nachos at that place in the mid 90s. Went to middle school there too for a little while. I would just like to say, Ms. Lafortune if you are reading this, you are a count.
Edit: I thought our super butch PE teacher was awesome
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 7:17 pm
Posted on 9/22/17 at 7:20 pm to jdeval1
Sort of.
It really just has more to do with the changing demographics of the neighborhood. That area used to be middle class whites like us in the 1980s. Now it's mostly black and Vietnamese with a high percentage of elderly. If you've ever attended Mass at our church, I would say we're split almost perfectly evenly between white, black, and Vietnamese, with a small number of Hispanics.
While that makes for a diverse church, the parish is no longer taking in sufficient income to operate as it once did. North EBR has expanded into the region and driven lots of families like ours away. When I was there, most of our kids came from Sherwood Forest, Greenwell Springs, and Denham Springs. As the Livingston Parish public schools have improved, less parents there sent their kids to St. Louis, and now we're left with mostly North EBR to pull students from.
It really just has more to do with the changing demographics of the neighborhood. That area used to be middle class whites like us in the 1980s. Now it's mostly black and Vietnamese with a high percentage of elderly. If you've ever attended Mass at our church, I would say we're split almost perfectly evenly between white, black, and Vietnamese, with a small number of Hispanics.
While that makes for a diverse church, the parish is no longer taking in sufficient income to operate as it once did. North EBR has expanded into the region and driven lots of families like ours away. When I was there, most of our kids came from Sherwood Forest, Greenwell Springs, and Denham Springs. As the Livingston Parish public schools have improved, less parents there sent their kids to St. Louis, and now we're left with mostly North EBR to pull students from.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 7:32 pm to athenslife101
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Which king?
Louis Neuf, baw.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 7:47 pm to LSUAlum2001
Correction according to national blue ribbon schools enrollment in 2016 enrollment at STM was 697 students.
697+283 from St Louis= 980 students
The STM campus has had more students in the past so Father Alello is incorrect when he said STM is not large enough. The fact is that STM has more square footage today than they did in the late 90s when around 1,070 students attended. I'm counting the addition of the science/computer building which previously did not exist.
697+283 from St Louis= 980 students
The STM campus has had more students in the past so Father Alello is incorrect when he said STM is not large enough. The fact is that STM has more square footage today than they did in the late 90s when around 1,070 students attended. I'm counting the addition of the science/computer building which previously did not exist.
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