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Sorry Baton Rouge: Lake Charles gets a new river bridge first, DOTD officials say

Posted on 12/19/20 at 1:23 am
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 12/19/20 at 1:23 am
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A key legislative panel Thursday gave state transportation leaders the authority to pursue a new bridge of up to $800 million – 125 miles west of Baton Rouge.

The plan would finance a new Calcasieu River Bridge on Interstate 10 in Lake Charles.

The 68-year-old bridge needs to be replaced to meet today's federal highway standards, according to the state Department of Transportation and Development.


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Meanwhile, in Baton Rouge:


Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 12/19/20 at 1:27 am to
It will be ready in time.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
22069 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 1:32 am to
That bridge is so bad. It needs to be replaced 50 years ago.
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 12/19/20 at 1:32 am to
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The 68-year-old bridge needs to be replaced


I would like to note that the Old Bridge in Baton Rouge is 81 years old. Just saying
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9520 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 1:39 am to
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I would like to note that the Old Bridge in Baton Rouge is 81 years old. Just saying


Oh well... I can just imagine the shitshow traffic would be for 20 years while this thing is being built. Let them have their bridge.
Posted by TheChosenOne
Member since Dec 2005
18519 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 1:39 am to
When they tear down the current LC bridge, can someone steal me one of those decorative pistol things from the guardrails? Thx

This post was edited on 12/19/20 at 1:49 am
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25527 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 1:40 am to
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A key legislative panel Thursday gave state transportation leaders the authority to pursue a new bridge of up to $800 million


I feel like they’ll screw this up somehow.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 1:45 am to
Should just add on to the existing bridge like the Williamsburg Bridge

Create more lanes on each side of the existing structure. With reinforcement of course.
This post was edited on 12/19/20 at 1:52 am
Posted by Guess
Down The Road
Member since Jun 2009
3772 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 3:23 am to
Or they pretty much totally redid the Huey P you almost can't recognize it from before.

What are they going to do add a second span like the GNO, that bridge has traffic, but nothing like the new bridge in Baton rouge or the GNO.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141977 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 3:32 am to
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What are they going to do
quote:

Guess
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18905 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 3:57 am to
Biden is ordering that old bridge torn down as part of his new gun control efforts.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
12430 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 4:24 am to
Biden probably thinks those pistols are confederate-looking and don’t pass the smell test.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 5:19 am to
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feel like they’ll screw this up somehow.


Key word there is pursue. It doesn’t say build. Pursue means we need studies and panels and meetings. You know, waste time and taxpayer money while not actually doing anything.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93721 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 5:51 am to
The study and panels have been done

This is the green light to start pursuing bids to begin construction.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 5:54 am to
Damn, thats good news. Hope they are able to get going. As bad as MRB traffic is in BR, the bridge in Lake Chuck is worse.
Posted by BHM
Member since Jun 2012
3150 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 6:28 am to
I wish Lafayette had a bridge.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 12/19/20 at 6:35 am to
quote:

Should just add on to the existing bridge like the Williamsburg Bridge

Create more lanes on each side of the existing structure. With reinforcement of course.


The new bridge will be much lower. I believe only 30-40 feet over the water instead of 90.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
7425 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 6:37 am to
Looks like Lake Chuck has its act together and is embracing tolls. It is public private partnership.

Also construction still has years to go. According to the article, they still had to do further environmental studies and decide upon 15 possible reroutes.

I know these projects take awhile to do but I have been hearing what they wanted to do for the bridge for years, and even saw conceptual reroutes and plans, you cannot tell me that a full construction start time table is still 4 years away.

I understand that these studies need to be done, but there has to be a faster way from design, acceptance, financing, and construction.

The longer these projects wait to be built the higher the costs.

Projects like the LA 1 toll bridge in Leeville had a certain cost estimate, but by the time the project was submitted for bids they came back way over budget. The state then had to piece meal the project wasted another 2 years to find additional funding and costs nearly doubled. That is why at first there were those nasty curves at when it first opened. DOTD had plans for full expressway like exchanges but the costs were too high and they opted for at grade intersections on a bridge in the middle of the water.

If memory serves me right, DOTD secured about 150-200 million for the first section which was to go between Leeville and Fourchon as a single project. The bids came back at around 250 million. Note: when DOTD put it out for bid, it was after Hurricane Ivan, but before Katrina.

After Katrina was when they started breaking up that first phase into parts: span over bayou Lafourche, approaches to span and access roads to new center span, section to Fourchon, and toll facilities.

Luckily, they were able to find additional money and finish all the sections of that first phase but instead of the estimated 160 million initial estimates, they spent over 300 million just on that first section.

Had DOTD have some funding flexibility and taken the initial bid, we could have had a bridge sooner that cost less.
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9520 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 6:57 am to
^ ^ This guy knows his bridges
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22307 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 6:57 am to
Everybody will sign off on a Public-Private-Partnership (PPP) where the Private Partner will pay for, build, and maintain the bridge in exchange for a reasonable and pre-agreed return on their investment (tolls), but when the general public and their reps in BR discover the Private Partner is making a reasonable profit by collecting tolls, the shite will hit the fan. You'll hear terms like "enriching themselves", "lining their own pockets", and "back-room deals". Petty jealousies will eventually deep-six this project. Just pull up a chair and get your popcorn ready.



Cut off nose/spite face.
This post was edited on 12/19/20 at 7:02 am
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