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re: So LSU has over $700 million dollars in deferred maintenance costs.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:48 pm to doubleb
Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:48 pm to doubleb
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replacement projects already.
Here in lies the problem though. If they would actually budget correctly for upkeep, they wouldn't need to spend millions on teardown and new construction.
I get that it is popular to trash Middleton for being an eyesore, but it would have been much cheaper to properly maintain it than to demolish it and move the building.
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:51 pm to Mudminnow
I have been told by 10+ teachers in different departments at different universities that they have to do two a year minimum
Eta: Most of them just mildly alter old ones if they don't feel like writing a completely new one. Just enough of a change to get published somewhere
Eta: Most of them just mildly alter old ones if they don't feel like writing a completely new one. Just enough of a change to get published somewhere
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:57 pm to doubleb
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hen you see figures like this coming from higher ed, and you see a list of megaprojects that DOTD is dreaming about doing; you know its time to grab your wallet.
this guy gets it!
this is the PR job being worked by JBE and his ilk that are going to (try) to tax our asses off. Publish a list of "Mega Projects", bemoan LSU's maintenance plight and then hit the taxpayers for some kwan.
frick LSU and its maintenance negligence. I heard this shite back in the 80s. If they are in the hole that deep, how'd they get there? Moterfrickers have been getting money nonstop. If they failed to prioritize what needed to be done, thats on them. Take out a loan like everyone else has to do when repairs outpace income. Don't ask the taxpayers to take the hit.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:02 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
Architects and contractors who have worked on LSU projects before know how much waste is involved on campus. Layers and layers of pointless bureaucracy and "maintenance" projects created to justify budget.
Not saying there aren't some needs at LSU, but lets just say 700 million is an incredibly bloated number. Oh, and with each new building and major renovation, they chip away at that figure.
(This excludes TAF and Athletic dept dollars, which is either private or self generated and thus should be able to do with as they please.)
Not saying there aren't some needs at LSU, but lets just say 700 million is an incredibly bloated number. Oh, and with each new building and major renovation, they chip away at that figure.
(This excludes TAF and Athletic dept dollars, which is either private or self generated and thus should be able to do with as they please.)
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:17 pm to tigerinthebueche
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frick LSU and its maintenance negligence. I heard this shite back in the 80s. If they are in the hole that deep, how'd they get there? Moterfrickers have been getting money nonstop. If they failed to prioritize what needed to be done, thats on them. Take out a loan like everyone else has to do when repairs outpace income. Don't ask the taxpayers to take the hit.
I do not think state institutions can enter into a debt obligation on their own. I could be wrong though
They do prioritize maintenance and that is why the lights have not gone completely out. it simply takes an extremely long period of time before repairs are actually made.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:27 pm to Tigeralum2008
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I do not think state institutions can enter into a debt obligation on their own. I could be wrong though
then tell the legislature to change the rules so they can. hell they can put up some of their own shite for collateral.
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They do prioritize maintenance and that is why the lights have not gone completely out. it simply takes an extremely long period of time before repairs are actually made.
doesn't sound like they prioritize very well if it takes a long period of time to actually make repairs. There is an entire staff of physical plant workers being paid to work. Not ride around in gators, golf carts, and trucks. Put them to work. Streamline your process so you can fix the damn roof when it leaks rather than wait till its completely destroyed. Only bureaucrats could frick up something this simple.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:31 pm to captainahab
quote:Didn't read the linked article, but did it comment on tax revenue (intake) during those time intervals?
Year 1 (1998-1999), TOPS cost the state $54M. Last year (2015-2016), TOPS cost the state $283M. Thus one of the reasons for the "cuts" to education.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 3:07 pm to tigerinthebueche
LFall data from page 2
Using the data provided from LSU, it indicates that they have spent approximately 700 million dollars on operations and maintenance over the last 13 years or since the 2003-2004 budget year. They lump operations and maintenance together.
Now how can they have put off 700 million dollars worth of maintenance when they haven't spent that much in 13 years on operations and maintenance?
There's no way Jindal or any one governor cut them so bad they had to forego all this maintenance.
Link to page on yearly summaries since the 90s.
Using the data provided from LSU, it indicates that they have spent approximately 700 million dollars on operations and maintenance over the last 13 years or since the 2003-2004 budget year. They lump operations and maintenance together.
Now how can they have put off 700 million dollars worth of maintenance when they haven't spent that much in 13 years on operations and maintenance?
There's no way Jindal or any one governor cut them so bad they had to forego all this maintenance.
Link to page on yearly summaries since the 90s.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 3:27 pm to doubleb
I believe the 700M is for the LSU system. That includes the various other LSU campuses, medical system as well.
The numbers you have are from LSU's main Baton Rouge campus
The numbers you have are from LSU's main Baton Rouge campus
Posted on 3/7/17 at 3:31 pm to Mudminnow
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I believe the 700M is for the LSU system. That includes the various other LSU campuses, medical system as well.
The numbers you have are from LSU's main Baton Rouge campus
No, per the original article linked on page 1 of the thread:
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The LSU System has more than $1 billion in deferred maintenance needs, including $718 million at its flagship campus in Baton Rouge, the USA Today Network of Louisiana reports.
Again, it just doesn't make sense.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 3:42 pm to Hammertime
LSU lost a lot of great professors, but anyone who has gone there for any length of time can tell you how the administrative overhead is fricking absurd. It pains me to think of how bloated their payroll is so every special interest group on campus can feel special and every minority administrator is able to move up in the ranks to some bullshite job title. They could trim the administration by half and not miss a beat, although none of them want to do any work so the remaining half may just quit.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 3:44 pm to doubleb
Funny thing is that LSU takes in more and more revenue every year. They raise tuition more than the budget is cut
Posted on 3/7/17 at 3:47 pm to tigerinthebueche
Fixing a leaking roof takes money that academic gluttons can spend on salaries, perks, travel, etc. if they ignore the leaks, then they can get their insurance or the state emergency fund to pay for it (at a drastically higher cost) without sacrificing a dime of their self-aggrandizing benefits.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 3:54 pm to Hammertime
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Funny thing is that LSU takes in more and more revenue every year. They raise tuition more than the budget is cut
Nobody at LSU has ever heard of trimming the fat. They see budget cuts looming and just find new revenue sources to fund their asinine payroll.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 3:54 pm to hawkster
Part of LSU's problem is that facility services got hit hard by budget cuts and the levels haven't been built back up. Many small problems go neglected and later turn into larger expensive problems.
LSU also likes to add many titles to create positions as well. Dean, associate dean, assistant dean, etc....
LSU also likes to add many titles to create positions as well. Dean, associate dean, assistant dean, etc....
Posted on 3/7/17 at 4:01 pm to Mudminnow
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Part of LSU's problem is that facility services got hit hard by budget cuts and the levels haven't been built back up. Many small problems go neglected and later turn into larger expensive problems.
Do they have more chiefs than they need, and too few Indians?
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LSU also likes to add many titles to create positions as well. Dean, associate dean, assistant dean, etc....
The more layers below you, the more money you make, and while many do not get pay raises, they are promoted this way and thus get paid more.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 4:04 pm to TigersSEC2010
Budget cuts are actually when the state reduces the proposed budget for next year. LSU can say, "We want a $4 billion new stadium". The state says no, so they call that a budget cut
The RNR building was old, leaked when it rained, had tiny desks from the 60s, and shitty electronics. Took years just to get someone to patch the fricking roof. That money got spent on a second monitor for the diversity administrative assistant
The RNR building was old, leaked when it rained, had tiny desks from the 60s, and shitty electronics. Took years just to get someone to patch the fricking roof. That money got spent on a second monitor for the diversity administrative assistant
Posted on 3/7/17 at 5:19 pm to doubleb
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The more layers below you, the more money you make, and while many do not get pay raises, they are promoted this way and thus get paid more.
First, they create another layer of bullshite academic bureaucracy. Then they pay people a lot more money to take the bullshite jobs. Then, when they fail or just leave in a few years "to go back to teaching", they give up the title, but keep the money forever. It's such blatant misuse of revenue that it should be a criminal offense.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 6:30 pm to TigerNlc
I work there. The rock wall is da best.
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