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re: Sean Payton on violence in New Orleans: Our city is broken

Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:49 am to
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:49 am to
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Lot of bad asses in here.
why are you labeling people who are responsible gun owners?
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127410 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:51 am to
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No white kid would be labeled a social pariah if he was bullied and didn't respond in kind. Just the opposite, they would actually feel sorry for the kid and stand up for him.



Considering this board's views on those who have been bullied, I wouldn't totally buy into that.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:54 am to
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People on here have been bitching about NOLA for a while now.


99% of them don't live in New Orleans


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It's jagged edges are getting deeper and deeper and creeping toward royal and bourbon.


Gutter Punks


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Now Garden District.


Issues never become problems until the well to do are affected.

Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26999 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:02 am to
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quote:
Lot of bad asses in here.
why are you labeling people who are responsible gun owners?


Then you may call me the same?

Or I called myself the same.
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
54094 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:07 am to
He's right, New Orleans has been fricked for a long time.

Until the corruption in leadership subsides, it will continue to be fricked.

The city politicians are extremely corrupt and it fricks up everything.

I love the city, I grew up there, but it has a lot that is wrong with it.
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 9:08 am
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26999 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:11 am to
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99% of them don't live in New Orleans

True. 99% may be high. Day to day residents aren't seeing more crime? Or more news reports?


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It's jagged edges are getting deeper and deeper and creeping toward royal and bourbon.


Gutter Punks

They've always been there. Always seem to be polite until 4AM. Then they get pushy. That's why you get inside a bar or get your arse back to the room. But if the homeless in NOLA, which are par for course, are getting more violent, I don't know what the answer is? Driving them out in droves would have people up in arms. Both liberals and the people living where they would migrate to.


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Now Garden District.


Issues never become problems until the well to do are affected.



This is always true. It is also a sign when a city has utterly lost control. This shooting is one incident. A high profile (to us) guy wa killed. If shooting become common in the Garden Dist. And FQ? Then you have to question what they CAN secure?
Posted by CadesCove
Mounting the Woman
Member since Oct 2006
40828 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:18 am to
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LSU_Saints_Hornets


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Funded by the white man.


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LSU_Saints_Hornets


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Come on man this isn't a black/white thing it is a irresponsible people thing.



Seems legit.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30191 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:24 am to
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His friend was just killed.


Then be an adult and don't emotionally overreact openly to the media.

Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30191 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:27 am to
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Issues never become problems until the well to do are affected.


Because the "well to do" don't accept that bull shite as being "part of their culture". They make it their problem and do something about it instead of just expecting the problem to sort itself out.
Posted by CadesCove
Mounting the Woman
Member since Oct 2006
40828 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:28 am to
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until the well to do are affected.


Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26999 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:33 am to
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Because the "well to do" don't accept that bull shite as being "part of their culture". They make it their problem and do something about it instead of just expecting the problem to sort itself out.


What's your militias name? Can I join?
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:37 am to
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Because the "well to do" don't accept that bull shite as being "part of their culture".


You mean they have the resources not accept it. You are ignorant if you think most people want to live in those conditions and wouldn't do something to change it if they could.

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They make it their problem and do something about it instead of just expecting the problem to sort itself out.




Is that why you think most people in the hood live in those conditions? When most of them are trying to find a way out.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26999 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:37 am to
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Then be an adult and don't emotionally overreact openly to the media.



It just happened? Old news in this day and age of media already, unless you are living it.

How is it an emotional over reaction? How do you know. Maybe he answered a question (God forbid) without coach speak or a filter. His job involves cameras being in his face.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112642 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:57 am to
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Is that why you think most people in the hood live in those conditions? When most of them are trying to find a way out.


Bad choices are why they are stuck in the hood.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
16919 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:58 am to
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Funded by the white man.


It's absolutely funded by record labels and a corporate class that sees the profitability in it. Money is more important to record labels and entertainment elites than anything else. And guess what political affiliation most of these people have...they could give two shits about the effect their promotion of trash culture has on society at large and that goes well beyond just the violence and immorality of rap music. It goes for all of popular culture.
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 9:59 am
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:59 am to
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Is that why you think most people in the hood live in those conditions? When most of them are trying to find a way out.


nahh, and if they do make it out the usually bring the hood with them and let their bad arse hood kids run down the new area they move into.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39980 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 10:00 am to
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Bad choices are why they are stuck in the hood.


So was it a result of my "good choices" that I was born to a well-off family in a good neighborhood that values education and other values important to success?
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 10:01 am
Posted by CadesCove
Mounting the Woman
Member since Oct 2006
40828 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 10:03 am to
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my "good choices"


If you stop making them, I can assure you that you will wind up somewhere other than your well-off family's good neighborhood.

Also, who said life was fair?
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39980 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 10:05 am to
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If you stop making them, I can assure you that you will wind up somewhere other than your well-off family's good neighborhood.


OK.
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Also, who said life was fair?


Not me.

Just illustrating the fact that you have no clue why or how the run of the mill person in "the hood" got there or why he or she remains. It's not always "bad choices".
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30191 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 10:37 am to
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You mean they have the resources not accept it


Please explain.

They have had access for decades to free education from first grade through college.

Access to the same jobs and same hours while going to school.

Why are they still stuck?

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You are ignorant if you think most people want to live in those conditions


I never said anyone wanted to live in those conditions. But they certainly seem to have very little desire to put in the work it takes to get out of those conditions.

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wouldn't do something to change it if they could.


Why can't they do something? What is stopping them from doing something about it?

You're ignorant if you actually believe what you just said.

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When most of them are trying to find a way out.


Every kid wanting to be the next LeBron James or Jay Z isn't "finding a way out".

They glorify hip hop culture and immediate gratification as it pertains to materialism, all while looking down on education and personal responsibility.

Keep making excuses for them though. That mindset sure is helping...
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