re: Sean Payton on violence in New Orleans: Our city is broken

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He's right.

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The problem is, yeah, he's right, but nothing he said is remotely insightful. So Sean Payton can look at the crime and murder rate in New Orleans and recognize there is a problem with it...welcome to something that I've known and everyone else I've ever known has known since I was like 8 years old. It gets discussed on this message board over and over again. So what is so profound about Sean Payton publicly acknowledging something that has been common knowledge for decades?

And he laments people not speaking out about it when it happens in other neighborhoods (which is not true really) when he is only now speaking out about it because a close personal friend of his was senselessly killed.

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The inner city black culture is broken, not the whole city of New Orleans. The entire county is reaping what was sowed in the 1970's with the war on poverty that started the decline of the black nuclear family. This along with a culture that has evolved to glorify violence. A lot of these young, fatherless males grow up being taught by peers that if you're disrespected and you don't respond then you're a b!tch and your whole community is gonna know about it and treat you like a punk... A lot of them would rather live life in jail then live in a community that does not respect them as a man. Its the whole community's fault for fostering such an environment. No white kid would be labeled a social pariah if he was bullied and didn't respond in kind. Just the opposite, they would actually feel sorry for the kid and stand up for him.

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I've literally witnessed multiple discussions (on other online forums) cover this, only to have a black poster say it is all the fault of white transgressions in the past or even deliberate government efforts to undermine black communities because white people "feared a unified and healthy black community." I'm not even kidding when I tell you I've seen entire discussions get derailed with this a number of times.

There is no significant enough effort in the black community nation wide to CHANGE THE CULTURE that is responsible for this. There is a multimillion dollar cultural promotion of thuggery, buffoonery, disrespect for others, etc that absolutely guarantees that young children will grow up imitating it as teens and young adults and it will only lead inevitably to their own incarceration, joblessness, drug use, and wanton irresponsible pregnancies which of course all feed into the same loop of despair. But if the problem is constantly put on "white privilege" or "not enough gun control" then the true issue will NEVER be resolved and I can promise you a real resolution won't come from any legislation. It will take 20 years or more of culturally oriented changes which first necessitate recognizing that the backward culture that these communities live in and so many musicians and others love to promote and get rich off of is the fundamental nature of the problem. Step one is ostracizing people who indulge in this lifestyle and not celebrating them or pretending like their backwardness is ok.

There also has to be motivation from within the community to change. Its a SHAME that the target of their outrage lately has been at outside entities...The police, law enforcement, court systems, government etc. Until the black community turns that outrage inward, towards the mothers and fathers of these children and demands that they're raised to appreciate life, and christian values of love, selflessness, honesty etc. there will never be any significant changes. The motivation for change has to come from within, the pressure has to be brought from the community. Unfortunately the culture of victimization has been ingrained very deeply. There needs to be a fundamental shift from we're victims to we're empowered to change this ourselves.

Urban blacks are a lost people with no concept of how lost they are. When confronted with facts, the typical response is to blame racism, blame police, blame government...and the national media perpetuates this attitude. So I have no hope that demographic will pull itself together anytime soon. There will be continued violence, continued poverty, and chronic swaths of prime real estate in every city that is essentially off limits to decent folk.

Well, he's not wrong... If we just execute all the killers in NO JAILS well be fine.

His platform was pretty much based off of saving black people. Hell, his entire working career has been about that. Look what he's left in his wake in every position. At the least, he can be blamed for not doing anything, but in actually, he made things worse.

It's well known and established what needs to be done in bad communities. It's just easier picking a scapegoat instead of blaming yourself and having to actually deal with the problems

What a worm.

Yeah, I'll just chalk this up to being overly emotional to his friend's death.

Seriously, how would any of you react if someone you knew-even only remotely-got gunned down like this?

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Was this a particuarly bad area where Smith was killed?

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No