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re: Russian sailors who died fighting fire on nuclear submarine averted planetary catastrophe

Posted on 7/8/19 at 1:29 pm to
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 1:29 pm to
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That's the only reason they beat the Germans.



The Russians were like the zombie horde in any zombie flick. Like the Dead in Game of Thrones.

They just keep coming at you in waves without any regards to casualties. Eventually, they just wear you down.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 1:30 pm to
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Maybe it was a long arse time ago, like the 60s, and shite was different.


more than likely this, safety measures, and the accidents that usually bring them about, are a dynamic process
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12118 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 1:44 pm to
You are making some foolish accusations. FBM stands for Fleet Ballistic Missile. SSBN was the proper terminology. I just used FBM as an indication it was missile carrying sub.
You are rather pathetic arguing about something that happened at about the time you were born. That would be like me arguing with the Chiefs on the boat who had served in WW II.
When you served maybe the air/acetylene/oxygen was as you stated. Maybe it was the result of the near accident that occurred while I was serving.

Just curious, if cutting steel was required anywhere on the ship , when you served, how was it possible without the use of acetylene gas and oxygen.
I suppose lasers could have replaced the acetylene torch for cutting.
When I was in the Newport News Shipyard there were lines and manifolds carrying those gasses from one end to the other. The same was true in the Navy Shipyard in Charleston.

The original was the George Washington Class which carried Polaris A1. I was on a Lafayette class, 425 ft long 33 ft wide, 16-A2 missiles. I think it was designed to carry 125 member crew. We usually carried about 115. You are talking about later class submarines.
I made seven patrols and crossed the Atlantic twice while submerged. I helped take her into dry dock then made the first patrol after dry dock. Made the one patrol then was discharged.


This post was edited on 7/8/19 at 2:44 pm
Posted by Tempratt
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Member since Oct 2013
13575 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 1:47 pm to
"Planetary catastrophe" as in nukes being fired off or the pile being exposed to ocean water?

A Nuclear burning core can't be extinguished by exposure to water, right?
Posted by bubblehead26
Temecula
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 2:54 pm to
I know what FBM stands for. People will know SSBN before they know what FBM stands for.

They still weld and torch, but everything is in small bottles that can be carried or craned on, as has been the practice for a very long time. Never once heard about oxygen and/or acetylene lines running from the pier.

Did shipyard periods as well, on a sub and carrier. Morale killer to the max. 8 patrols on 2 ships and deployment on a carrier
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12118 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 3:03 pm to
Morale killer, yeah. After the third patrol you have every shipmate's life story and every tale they can remember, several times. We have a reunion every two years. First one was in 2003, many shipmates were there. Now not so many.
USS Lafayette SSBN 616. Check out their web page "Eternal Patrol". Those 60's shipmates are passing quickly. That is the ultimate morale killer.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19541 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 4:33 pm to
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to the proletariat


That's smug, it reflects a fundamentally marxist attitude on class, are you a Marxist (?), and wrong.
Posted by HueyP
Lubbock
Member since Nov 2008
3155 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 4:39 pm to
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This is why I think a lot of people really aren't afraid of Russian Military or their propaganda. This shouldn't be happening.


I can understand your thought process as I once felt that way myself.
A. Hitler
Posted by GeorgePaton
God's Country
Member since May 2017
4495 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 4:42 pm to
...Ruskies are slowly poisoning the planet. Gonna kill us all. But that doesn't matter, in the mind of the libtards Donald Trump is the most serious threat to our existence.

Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31447 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 4:47 pm to
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Captain Sergei Pavlov, an aide to the commander of Russia’s navy, praised the heroism of the men, who died as they battled to stop the fire from spreading in the submersible.


I bet the Russian military conditioned him to say stuff like that in these situations.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
91197 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 6:21 pm to
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Three incidents that we know of...

Then there's the Kyshtym Disaster in 1957. Radioactive contamination accident that occurred on 29 September 1957 at Mayak, a plutonium production site in Russia for nuclear weapons and nuclear fuel reprocessing plant of the Soviet Union.


Don’t forget Chernobyl
Posted by DomincDecoco
of no fixed abode
Member since Oct 2018
10928 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 7:19 pm to
Or, they were drunk as hell on vodka and effed up big time
Posted by DomincDecoco
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Member since Oct 2018
10928 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 8:03 pm to
Naval activities????
Posted by munchman
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
10326 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 10:39 pm to
Just CIA doing work.
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
30637 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 10:57 pm to
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Just CIA doing work.


Was my first thought too
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:10 am to
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An ET2 got a Navy Com pinned on him by the squadron’s commodore about 15 years ago for taking actions during a coolant leak caused by the shipyard.


Did this happen to be the Pennsylvania? They were our sister boat and they had a few issues around this time. If I remember correctly they spent 6 months in dry dock cleaning up a big mess.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17163 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:24 am to
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An ET2 got a Navy Com pinned on him by the squadron’s commodore about 15 years ago for taking actions during a coolant leak caused by the shipyard.


Did this happen to be the Pennsylvania? They were our sister boat and they had a few issues around this time. If I remember correctly they spent 6 months in dry dock cleaning up a big mess.


Unrelated story but I think my boat (PITTSBURGH) had a small (pinhole) primary coolant leak that ultimately lead the USN to decomm her rather than refuel. The ship was 35 years old

RIP SSN-720.... Heart of Steel!
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 8:25 am
Posted by Zanzibaw
BR
Member since Jun 2016
2949 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 10:22 am to
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Don’t forget Chernobyl


You would think that would be the one that would't get forgotten
Posted by Noryev
Member since Aug 2018
959 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 10:35 am to
The same.. I was stationed at the Point Loma Sub base in San Diego. The ship I was on was docked there and saw subs and the crew all the time.
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