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re: Russian sailors who died fighting fire on nuclear submarine averted planetary catastrophe
Posted on 7/8/19 at 11:36 am to 1LSUFANDFW
Posted on 7/8/19 at 11:36 am to 1LSUFANDFW
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A US submarine crew are highly trained and in particular SSBN crews go through trainers during their off crew period to stay sharp and be able to handle any situation that may come up while out at sea.
I've read that the USN deliberately avoids automating a lot of things that could be automated on subs, specifically to make sure there are always people in the loop who can respond to anything that might happen.
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 12:14 pm to momentoftruth87
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This is why I think a lot of people really aren't afraid of Russian Military or their propaganda. This shouldn't be happening.
They, like the rest of the world, lack far behind the United States in naval capabilities. If you think the Russian military shouldn't be respected because of this you are mistaken. They have extremely capable missile technology, a very capable air force, and a very large and organized army. Maintaining a state of the art Navy is expensive and difficult and Russia has had great difficulty with this since the collapse of the USSR. Most nations don't even try.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 12:19 pm to Zanzibaw
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How many times before Russia can't have nuclear anything anymore?
It certainly doesn't seem like they're very good at it.
And every time they screw up, they always present a story about the heroes involved who sacrificed themselves for us all.
Just stop it, Russia.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 12:20 pm to ChewyDante
The thing about Russia is they will throw body after body at any problem without a second thought. Kind of scary imo
Posted on 7/8/19 at 12:21 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
as with most governments, you only hear about these things rarely because for everyone that is public knowledge there are potentially dozens that they were able to keep secret.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 12:22 pm to jmarto1
I wouldn’t say they’re cavalier about it, it’s not that they don’t care. They just view sacrifice as a social obligation.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 12:23 pm to Lima Whiskey
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They just view sacrifice as a social obligation.
to the proletariat
Posted on 7/8/19 at 12:46 pm to Gus007
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pains me that I can't remember his name. He was Machinist Mate 2nd class.
An ET2 got a Navy Com pinned on him by the squadron’s commodore about 15 years ago for taking actions during a coolant leak caused by the shipyard. The CO wanted to mast him for “ violating immediate actions”. The Commodore said frick that and walked down and pinned him.
That says more about the training our nuclear operators receive prior to going to the boats, and the continual training at sea than anything else. The US is light years ahead of the Russians in that regard.
This post was edited on 7/8/19 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 7/8/19 at 12:50 pm to Tigeralum2008
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I served on subs a long time ago.
This could have been you. Really makes you think.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 12:54 pm to 1LSUFANDFW
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in particular SSBN crews go through trainers during their off crew period to stay sharp and be able to handle any situation that may come up while out at sea.
Spoken like a true boomer fg. Meanwhile, the real submariners would only have access to trainers during the 80-90 days a year we’d be in homeport
This post was edited on 7/8/19 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 7/8/19 at 12:56 pm to jlovel7
This is gonna make a great mini series in 25 years.
—-done
—-done
Posted on 7/8/19 at 1:06 pm to Gus007
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We were in Dry Dock changing out a Reactor core after several years/patrols.
There power power cords, airlines, oxygen lines and acetylene lines running all over the ship. There were craftsmen grinding and others welding at several stations. One evening, at changing of the watch, a sailor walked aboard, smoking his cigarette, ready to assume his watch duties. As he walked aboard his newly lit cigarette burned down to the filter. He was properly trained, so immediately he recognized there was an extremely high oxygen content in the atmosphere in that area. He immediately sounded the alarm and over the MC system he ordered all grinding and burning to cease, and all Shipyard personnel to vacate the ship.
After an investigation it was discovered that one of the craftsmen had connected his pneumatic grinder to an Oxygen manifold.
The spent oxygen was collecting in the compartment.
You know, I'm not usually one to call it, but I'm going to throw the bullshite flag on this one...
Total crew is around 170 with 16 officers and 16 chiefs. Manning slightly changeable, sure. FBM sub? Nobody calls them that. SSBNs or boomers, not FBM. But that's not the bs part.
You're talking about being in dry dock changing out a reactor, so a shipyard. They don't randomly run oxygen and acetylene lines. No explosive gas is run in lines anywhere because of the industrial environment of a shipyard. Even so, all of the temporary ventilation would've sucked all of the oxygen straight out of the boat. Maybe your boat was different, but highly unlikely.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 1:15 pm to bubblehead26
FFS! Every time I turn around another Russian piece of shite is Melting down!
But at least they are shipping their poorly made garbage to Iran. I know those lunatics will follow proper cleaning and maintenance protocols.
But at least they are shipping their poorly made garbage to Iran. I know those lunatics will follow proper cleaning and maintenance protocols.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 1:16 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
In former Soviet Russia nuclear submarine kills you.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 1:16 pm to SDTiger15
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FFS! Every time I turn around another Russian piece of shite is Melting down!
easy, we don't need to be Russian to any conclusions until the facts are all in
Posted on 7/8/19 at 1:18 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 7/8/19 at 1:20 pm to jmarto1
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The thing about Russia is they will throw body after body at any problem without a second thought. Kind of scary imo
That's the only reason they beat the Germans.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 1:22 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
This was the EXACT reason why Pence’s trip to NH was cancelled, and why Putin had that surprise meeting with his Defense Minister and why the EU had their meeting all in the same day
Posted on 7/8/19 at 1:27 pm to bubblehead26
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You know, I'm not usually one to call it, but I'm going to throw the bullshite flag on this one...
Total crew is around 170 with 16 officers and 16 chiefs. Manning slightly changeable, sure. FBM sub? Nobody calls them that. SSBNs or boomers, not FBM. But that's not the bs part.
You're talking about being in dry dock changing out a reactor, so a shipyard. They don't randomly run oxygen and acetylene lines. No explosive gas is run in lines anywhere because of the industrial environment of a shipyard. Even so, all of the temporary ventilation would've sucked all of the oxygen straight out of the boat. Maybe your boat was different, but highly unlikely.
Maybe it was a long arse time ago, like the 60s, and shite was different. He just said during the Cold War, which was ~45 years long.
Idk, I liked his story so I'm wanting to believe it
Posted on 7/8/19 at 1:28 pm to Eli Goldfinger
quote:Ain't many Jonesys in Mother Russia to recruit.
I wonder why so many officers were on the sub...
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