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Running advice requested for new runner (updated with new shoes!)

Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:19 am
Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:19 am
Note: I am running on the road in my neighborhood. Regular ole pavement.

Hello OT. I have started running and am trying to work my way up to running long distances. I have noticed that when I run, I experience pain on the outside of my left foot, on the inside arch of my right foot, and in my shin of my right leg.

Could this be a shoe issue? If so, do you have any recommendations? Or if not a shoe issue, could it be the way I run? I know I don't run very lightly, so I suppose that could be it. Not sure how to fix that and "run more lightly".

Anyway, any tips for building up to running long distance would help. How do you overcome pain and how do you get "in the zone" to run long distance?

TIA


Update: as suggested in this thread, I finally got to Varsity Sports. They had me try on a bunch of different shoes and watched how I walked. I ended up going with Asics Cumulus. They fit me up a size. Very comfortable and supportive. I will try them out and report. Thanks to everyone for their recommendations

This post was edited on 5/28/15 at 12:50 pm
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26537 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:20 am to
Could be the shoes, could be your stride. What shoes are you currently using?
Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
35538 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:21 am to
Some Nike running shoes. I was already told that was a bad decision, and I was recommended Sauconys.

A trainer at my gym watched me run on the treadmill and told me I had a good stride and good arm movements for the most part, but that I land way too heavily compared to how much I weigh.
Posted by Hermit Crab
Under the Sea
Member since Nov 2008
7162 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:21 am to
go to a running store and have them look at you while you walk and run and let them recommend a shoe. could also be that you are increasing your distance faster than your body is ready for.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26537 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:23 am to
quote:

Some Nike running shoes. I was already told that was a bad decision, and I was recommended Sauconys.


Nikes aren't the best, Sauconys would be better. Although I've never owned a pair so I don't have personal experience with them.

I always recommend Brooks. I have the Ghost 7s and love them.

Try running on the road rather than the treadmill and see if that has an impact as well.
Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
35538 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:25 am to
Could be that. I went from being relatively sedentary in college to working out 2 hours a day, 5 days a week now that I'm working and can have a routine. Couldn't run a mile for the life of me and now, 10 weeks later, I'm running a 9 minute mile. Hoping to get that down as I go along. Yesterday I ran 2 and a half miles and I'm hoping to keep upping that as much as I can. I played soccer for a big portion of my life and was used to chasing a ball and sprinting for short periods. This long distance thing is harder for me to mentally get in the zone.

I also notice when I run that my right leg seems to go to the side a little when I run, which is hard to explain. It doesn't swing out a lot but I was trying to pay attention and noticed that it doesn't move back and forth in a perfect line. This might have something to do with it.
Posted by Macintosh504
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
52530 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:26 am to
Frick u
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 11:41 am
Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
35538 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:27 am to
I am running on the road and experience this pain on the road. The treadmill was for a treadmill high intensity challenge at the gym. In both cases, I experience the pain. 95% of my running is on the road.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53731 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:28 am to
quote:

I have started running and am trying to work my way up to running long distances. I have noticed that when I run, I experience pain on the outside of my left foot, on the inside arch of my right foot, and in my shin of my right leg.


90% chance (or more) you're doing too much too soon

quote:

any tips for building up to running long distance would help


Increase by no more than 10% from week to week (in time or distance), incorporate different types of runs (slow, tempo, long, interval) to your program and learn the beauty of a long run is found in correct pacing and effort.
Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
35538 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:30 am to
quote:

Increase by no more than 10% from week to week (in time or distance)
I do not have the patience for this, but I will try. I have been trying to run until I feel really tired, which is obviously very inconsistent and dependent upon numerous factors.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53731 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:30 am to
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I was recommended Sauconys

Thats like recommending someone a Toyota.

Yeah, Toyota makes a good vehicle but the type of Toyota will dictate how effective it is based on the need. A Corollo is not a Camry which is not a Rav 4 which is not a Tundra.

Like Toyota, Saucony makes alot of different models. Whether or not they make one you need and like you need to find out at a running store. Go to varsity sports, tell them what you said here and you'll be fine.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50248 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:31 am to
I take it you´re not running on pavement. If so, cut that out NOW.

Second, as for footwear, have someone properly diagnose your motion/stride/strike (I´m not sure an LA fitness dude or dudette watching you run on a treadmill qualifies).

Good brands IMNSHO and in no particular order:

Asics
Mizuno
Brooks
Saucony
New Balance

You´ve made significant advances in only 9 weeks, you´re not overtraining, are you (that 2 hours a day surely isn´t 7 days a week, is it?)?
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18664 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:31 am to
As stated, go to an actual running shoe store like Varsity Sports in Baton Rouge. You may be over pronating and need motion control shoes.

I can always tell when I need new shoes because I start getting knee pain.

My suggestion for training is to start slow. Focus more on running for a specific amount of time instead of miles. The first week is always the hardest, but most soreness will go away after that. Try and set a goal and find a plan online to stick with for a few months.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120172 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:31 am to
Trainer was hitting on you.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83523 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:32 am to
quote:

I take it you´re not running on pavement. If so, cut that out NOW.




quote:

Second, as for footwear, have someone properly diagnose your motion/stride/strike




proper form negates any of this shite

focus on your form and don't increase your distance too much, too fast
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53731 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:33 am to
quote:

I do not have the patience for this, but I will try.


If you want to run long distance you'll either need to be extremely lucky, prepare to injured/hurt alot or learn to be patient. Most people who start running and don't stick with it share your exact approach of too much too fast, then get frustrated and blame it on "I'm just not built for running" or "my knees can't handle it".

Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50248 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:34 am to
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proper form negates any of this shite

There are those out there who cannot attain proper form.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53731 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:35 am to
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There are those out there who cannot attain proper form


Are we talking about people with a disability?
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83523 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:35 am to
quote:

There are those out there who cannot attain proper form.


are they physically disabled?
Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
35538 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:36 am to
1. I am running on the road in my neighborhood
2. The trainers at my non-LA fitness, more upscale gym are very knowledgeable
3. Thanks for the recommendations
4. I did a program at the gym with lots of HIIT, boxing, kickboxing, weight training, running, swimming, etc. boot camp like program. We met twice a week for personal training and 2-3 times per week to take classes or run or swim or do whatever on our own. I typically went Monday through Thursday from 5:30-8. It was good fun. whipped me back into shape.
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