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re: Running advice requested for new runner (updated with new shoes!)
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:37 am to Salmon
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:37 am to Salmon
No, I just know/have seen some people who ´relapse´ if you will.
Anyway, she´s young, so I guess the pavement isn´t a big issue (I´m not young, and for me it´s become a pain in the joints, arse and hips).
Anyway, she´s young, so I guess the pavement isn´t a big issue (I´m not young, and for me it´s become a pain in the joints, arse and hips).
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 11:39 am
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Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:37 am to Dandy Lion
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I take it you´re not running on pavement
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I'm running on the road in my neighborhood. Regular ole pavement.
You people suck at this
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 11:38 am
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:38 am to When in Rome
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The trainers at my non-LA fitness, more upscale gym are very knowledgeable
What is their background and how does it relate to the bio mechanics and physiology of running?
You won't get much from an NASM certification on endurance training.
Where do you live?
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:38 am to Salmon
I know I need to work on my form, but a lot of my technique from playing sports my whole life up until college has come back. I don't think I run like a complete idiot.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:40 am to When in Rome
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I don't think I run like a complete idiot.
you don't have to run like an idiot to be inefficient and put pressure on points that after running that way for an extended period of time will cause that area to become inflamed
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:40 am to Dandy Lion
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I just know/have seen some people who ´relapse´ if you will.
It doesn't mean they can't learn proper form, it means they don't want to. So, they make excuses as to why they "can't"
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(I´m not young, and for me it´s become a pain in the joints, arse and hips).
Pain in your joins comes more from bad form and weak stability muscle areas (glutes, hamstrings, hip flexors,etc)than it does from surface. Whether you're 20 or 60
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 11:41 am
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:41 am to LSUfan4444
Hey, I'm not trying to make any excuses. That's why I came here asking for advice to improve. I will work on my form, and I hope that will reduce my pain. 
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:43 am to Salmon
I gotcha. So will one of these running stores be able to tell me what I can do to improve in addition to recommending a good pair of shoes?
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:43 am to LSUfan4444
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Pain in your joins comes more from bad form and weak stability muscle areas (glutes, hamstrings, hip flexors,etc)than it does from surface. Whether you're 20 or 60
Well, that´s the theory, anyway.
Personally, I can tell the difference between my preferred surface and pavement (although it may be a bit psychological or psychosomatic).
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:44 am to When in Rome
I wasn't talking about you making excused, that was to the PP who said he knew people who couldn't learn proper form.
To work on your proper form, first you need to know what proper form is. Then, you need to run slower and less. Run faster in shorter intervals (or on the track), but work on form.
Where do you live? I may be able to make some recommendations.
To work on your proper form, first you need to know what proper form is. Then, you need to run slower and less. Run faster in shorter intervals (or on the track), but work on form.
Where do you live? I may be able to make some recommendations.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:45 am to Dandy Lion
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Personally, I can tell the difference between my preferred surface and pavement (although it may be a bit psychological or psychosomatic).
I'm sure you can. Bad form can put more stress on the joints and the joints will be put under more stress the harder the surface.
What I'm saying is that with proper form, you won't notice it nearly as much (if at all). I run about 35 miles a week and at least 10-12 of them are on concrete. 4-6 are on a track, 3-6 on a treadmill and the rest on asphalt.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:47 am to When in Rome
Get on an actual plan. Like a half marathon training guide. It will build you up at a challenging, but acceptable pace. Even if you don't plan to do a race or even reach those distances. If you ever feel "pain", back off until you don't feel it. Like someone else said, you may not have the proper muscle support yet and you can hurt yourself.
I get a weird feeling in my left knee when I reach my limit. Comes at about 3 miles when I'm not in shape. But after slowly building up my endurance, I've gotten up to 8 miles without that pain showing up. But I haven't run in some time, so I bet if I went out to run 3 miles, I'd likely get that pain again.
Another thing is if you have the time and feel good, don't let your brain talk you out of keeping going. Maybe I'm just a lazy SOB, but I can talk myself out of that last mile pretty easily and I later kick myself when I realize how much I had left in the tank. It's only slowing down your progress.
I get a weird feeling in my left knee when I reach my limit. Comes at about 3 miles when I'm not in shape. But after slowly building up my endurance, I've gotten up to 8 miles without that pain showing up. But I haven't run in some time, so I bet if I went out to run 3 miles, I'd likely get that pain again.
Another thing is if you have the time and feel good, don't let your brain talk you out of keeping going. Maybe I'm just a lazy SOB, but I can talk myself out of that last mile pretty easily and I later kick myself when I realize how much I had left in the tank. It's only slowing down your progress.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:47 am to LSUfan4444
Northshore
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:50 am to KG6
Yes, the mental challenge has been the most difficult for me to conquer. When I first started running a couple of months ago, I convinced myself I had to stop and walk pretty quickly into it. I know it doesn't seem that great, but now that I can run over 2.5 miles in 30 minutes without slowing down, it's a small victory for me. I will get there one day I would love to be able to run a marathon one day. This whole concept of "just get out there and run" is so foreign to me.
I can't even begin to fathom how people do full marathons. I can't.
I would love to be able to run a marathon one day. This whole concept of "just get out there and run" is so foreign to me. I can't even begin to fathom how people do full marathons. I can't.
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 11:51 am
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:51 am to When in Rome
Go to Varisty Sports in Mandeville for shoes. Ryan Green (chaved head / goatee) and/or Bud Weiss (long haried laid back guy) are the managing partners but I feel confident in saying you are in good hands with all of their employees.
From time to time they do running clinics and some of them are free. Not sure if he works there are not but Fred Klinge is also another great resource. If he doesn't work there, ask Bud or Ryan for his contact info and he can give you some details about a program that I participate in through PAC (Endurance Edge). There are different components to it geared for triathletes but Fred may be able to work with you on form and such.
From time to time they do running clinics and some of them are free. Not sure if he works there are not but Fred Klinge is also another great resource. If he doesn't work there, ask Bud or Ryan for his contact info and he can give you some details about a program that I participate in through PAC (Endurance Edge). There are different components to it geared for triathletes but Fred may be able to work with you on form and such.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:51 am to When in Rome
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I do not have the patience for this, but I will try
Most people that aren't patient have to become patient whether they want to or not b/c of the injuries they sustain from progressing too fast.
Good friend of mine who was an elite swimmer got a stress fracture in her tibia b/c she kept increasing her distance and speed faster than her body could handle. That walking boot sure slowed her down
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:52 am to LSUfan4444
Awesome. Thanks so much 
I have heard great things about Varsity Sports and that's where I was planning on going.
I have heard great things about Varsity Sports and that's where I was planning on going. Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:54 am to AubieALUMdvm
What a pain! I am not good at cutting myself off when I feel I can do more. It's the same with work or when I was in school studying/working on projects.
I do have the Nike running app, so I guess I'll do one of those programs. I don't like how they say to start the first day by walking though. Ain't nobody got time for that!
I am not good at cutting myself off when I feel I can do more. It's the same with work or when I was in school studying/working on projects. I do have the Nike running app, so I guess I'll do one of those programs. I don't like how they say to start the first day by walking though. Ain't nobody got time for that!
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:57 am to When in Rome
There was an Ironman in my neighborhood this weekend. That blows my mind. But gets my kind of amped to try and push myself past my limits. I just can't stay concentrated on something like that for more than 2 months or so though. And I think it takes a little more effort than that . I trained for a half marathon twice. Both times I got to around the 8 mile mark. You really have to dedicate time during the week, but especially for your "long" run on the weekend. I always end up getting hammered one weekend and am too hungover to do my long run and don't have time during the week. Then I just fall off the wagon. It's pretty a pretty standard cycle for everything I do fitness wise . But I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. I fully have confidence that if I ever stick with it, I can accomplish it. I think most people can. They just have to get the mental part down to where they believe in themselves and push themselves.
. I trained for a half marathon twice. Both times I got to around the 8 mile mark. You really have to dedicate time during the week, but especially for your "long" run on the weekend. I always end up getting hammered one weekend and am too hungover to do my long run and don't have time during the week. Then I just fall off the wagon. It's pretty a pretty standard cycle for everything I do fitness wise . But I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. I fully have confidence that if I ever stick with it, I can accomplish it. I think most people can. They just have to get the mental part down to where they believe in themselves and push themselves. Posted on 5/19/15 at 12:01 pm to When in Rome
If you feel you must do more exercise then do it. Just do low impact stuff after your pre-determined run length is finished. Do tons of core exercises, go swimming, ride a bike... There's lots of ways to wear yourself out.
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