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re: Riots In the South? Could it happen?

Posted on 4/28/15 at 12:35 pm to
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 12:35 pm to
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Not a cop shooting and several things have happened to really harm race relations in the US since July 2013 ie ferguson, and choked out man in NYC (name escapes me). If a cop shot an unarmed black man in N.O. right now and there was video of it, it is not unreasonable to think it could happen. Not just in NO either. Shreveport, BR, Jackson or any other southern city could say the same. I certainly hope it doesn't as it would not be like what we see in Baltimore imo.


Every new incident like this one in Baltimore makes it more likely that the next publicized cop misbehavior will lead to similar riots, because people are seeing that there are no real consequences.
Also, the black community is coalescing around this issue in a big way.
My worry is that it happens in some small southern town. Maybe that's because I live in one of those. It just seems to me that if your town only consists of a few square miles, and people you consider "animals" (and believe me I don't consider them that) are burning 1 of the 2 pharmacies in town and rioting within 3 minutes of your house, you (average southern white guy with 4 or 12 guns) are going to be primed to shoot someone, and this is going to explode quickly beyond the capacity of a small police force to control it.
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
6179 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 12:35 pm to
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While I think that it's possible in some deeply segregated cities, blacks are a lot more integrated in the south than the north. i think what we've seen in Ferguson and Baltimore is youth who probably don't know and see a ton of white people in their neighborhoods. lot more of a mixture of the cultures down here and there's some names to faces that i don't think exists up there. i could be wrong, but in my time in Philly, Jersey, D.C., and NYC, there were pretty clear cut black and white areas. not saying that doesn't exist in the south, but less so.


Agree with this completely. Once heard a black truck driver say he's treated differently more outside the South and it's because we laid issues of racism out on the table early in the South so we've dealt with it, whereas other places have kept it under the table and tried to pretend it doesn't exist. I don't think we dealt with it gracefully by any means but I think there's some truth there. Sure, there are still issues but it feels like we've tried to move on here more than elsewhere.

We live amongst each other more in the South than anywhere else in the country. People fail to realize that in other regions.
Posted by nolanola
Member since Nov 2010
7580 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 12:36 pm to
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a police department that is stacked when it comes to handling large crowds/events....check



True. But Mardi Gras and French Quarter Fest aren't the same as rioting mobs.

Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9933 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 12:38 pm to
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NOLA is prime for something like this is some black kid got killed by a white cop.


NOPD is extensively trained in the use of ham sandwiches and preventing and/or destroying camera footage. How many black men have died at the hands of NOPD or OPSO without riots?
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 12:41 pm to
Let's take Jackson, MS. The judges are black, the politicians are black, the cops are black, the criminal bonds are low, and let's say a good number of the voters are black. If they riot, who are they blaming and for what?
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 12:44 pm to
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who are they blaming and for what?

not the forum for logical, rational debate! GTFO!
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57446 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 12:44 pm to
No shite norther AL and MS have no data, they barely have running water
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45044 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 12:46 pm to
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But Mardi Gras and French Quarter Fest aren't the same as rioting mobs.


Nah they are more inebriated and come in much much larger groups.
Posted by STTDB21
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
25 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 12:47 pm to
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yes it could but there would be a shite more blood shed. on both sides.


Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39972 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 12:48 pm to
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There is a lot of racial tension in Atlanta, but a lot of it is on a higher level. It's between the Braves and the city, or white and black middle class drivers on the interstate or at the airport. I'm sure there is tension between APD and black folks, but you don't see it in the heart of the city.



Honestly, I live in Canton so if there were tensions I wouldn't see too much. I do have family that live in Grant Park and they said it was tense last summer but it more about the crime that was happening instead of the color of a persons skin. (they're hipsters so take it for what it's worth)


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The most vulnerable areas for riots would be south of the Peachtree Center area, IMO. You could obviously do a lot of damage to things like the government complex and GSU, but I don't think riots are sustainable above that line.


I think their are some areas in the city that could sustain a riot it just depends on where it happens. We had the man killed in Cobb County recently but they've only had small protests.

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Even in minority areas you don't want to live in in other parts of the metro (think Paulding/West Cobb, Gwinnett, Henry, North Fayette, etc.),


If you're talking the Austell and Mableton area then I completely agree but once you get north of that area there's not much to worry about in Paulding and West Cobb. And it's got pockets in the other counties but I don't feel like it's much to worry about.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101293 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 12:48 pm to
I think people underestimate how content and comfortable the vast majority of people (even those who you think may have a proclivity to "riot") are.

As pointed out earlier in the thread, what happened in Baltimore was really quite isolated. There wasn't some huge groundswell of the populace looking to join in and get it on a much bigger scale.

The number of people willing to risk taking a bullet to prove a point is just not that big.
Posted by jimlsu1
Ellicott City, Md
Member since Oct 2008
1416 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 12:49 pm to
The riots are spreading. Believe me Baltimore can get real bad real fast. I am being evacuated right now and I work in the suburbs.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83927 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 12:50 pm to
In Jackson, a group of white kids planned to kill a black man, found one, and killed him in an incredibly inhumane way. No riots? Oh, that's right. He was gay. #BLM
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 12:50 pm to
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No riots? Oh, that's right. He was gay. #BLM
This post was edited on 4/28/15 at 12:52 pm
Posted by The Hurricane
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Aug 2011
7945 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 12:51 pm to
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True. But Mardi Gras and French Quarter Fest aren't the same as rioting mobs

I don't see New Orleans as a city that would riot, communities are much too integrated now. For the most part, a lot of black and whites seem to co exist here. Cities in the North riot when they've won championships, we've rejoiced.
Posted by captainahab
Highway Trio8
Member since Dec 2014
1598 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 12:52 pm to
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I just can't see it happening in Lafayette, Baton Rouge etc.


I remember this well:

Baton Rouge 1972
Posted by lsutiger2010
Member since Aug 2008
14790 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 12:52 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/20/21 at 12:28 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 12:53 pm to
Happened in S'port in the mid 80's.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 12:53 pm to
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NOPD is extensively trained in the use of ham sandwiches and preventing and/or destroying camera footage. How many black men have died at the hands of NOPD or OPSO without riots?

Sad but true.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 12:54 pm to
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I remember this well

me too, mt sister was just about to start LSU then
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