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re: Report: Cruising in left lane more dangerous than speeding
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:52 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:52 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
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I would like to pose a question or two. It may have been beaten to death but I haven't seen the responses.
Let's say it is a 2 lane divided highway and the average traffic is 65 mph and the speed limit is 65 mph, I'm going 70 mph and in the passing lane and someone that is going 75 mph comes up. Should I just move to the other lane and disrupt traffic because someone is going way over the speed limit while I am also going over? Or should I just hold my spot since I'm already going over and that person has no right to the "passing" lane because we are already going over the speed limit.
Good question. It's actually a lot simpler than you're making it (and than most people make it).
The left lane should be used for passing. When you're done passing, move into the right lane. Your speed relative to the speed limit does not matter. Traffic doesn't always allow for you to move right away, but you should move when you've cleared the cars you are passing. Someone driving faster behind you (while you're in the process of passing) may have to slow down until you can move over, but that's okay. As long as you don't require them to weave into the right lane and back into the left to pass you in the left lane. If they have the space to do that, you should have moved over.
People have trouble with the idea of yielding to faster cars. They think in terms of their speed relative to the speed limit, or their possibly being inconvenienced. The truth is that if you yield to faster cars, you will be able to get to your destination at the pace you would like because slower cars will yield to you.
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 11:56 am
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:53 am to Pecker
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Report: Cruising in left lane more dangerous than speeding
Probably bc a lot of people that are cruising are drunk and trying to stay under the radar.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:53 am to Pecker
Find a good study about how to zipper merge when a lane is ending so we can educate all the idiots.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:54 am to Pecker
What if the average speed cars are continuous and I am continuously passing?
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:56 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
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What if the average speed cars are continuous and I am continuously passing?
I added this part to my last reply:
Someone driving faster behind you (while you're in the process of passing) may have to slow down until you can move over, but that's okay. As long as you don't require them to weave into the right lane and back into the left to pass you in the left lane. If they have the space to do that, you should have moved over.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:58 am to csorre1
I drive FASTER when I need to bob and weave through traffic. It makes it much easier because I don't have to worry about what's going on behind me.
I typically start out going 80 on 10 through the city. Within a couple of miles, I'm cruising at 90. Between NOLA and BR or the dirty dell, I would like to go 85. I would set my cruise at 85 and stay there if I didn't need to constantly swerve around people. Usually about 1/4 of the way there, I'm rolling 95-100.
I'm gonna speed. It doesn't bother me one bit to swerve in and out of traffic all day long. If people don't want me to, give me a lane to pass.
I typically start out going 80 on 10 through the city. Within a couple of miles, I'm cruising at 90. Between NOLA and BR or the dirty dell, I would like to go 85. I would set my cruise at 85 and stay there if I didn't need to constantly swerve around people. Usually about 1/4 of the way there, I'm rolling 95-100.
I'm gonna speed. It doesn't bother me one bit to swerve in and out of traffic all day long. If people don't want me to, give me a lane to pass.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:20 pm to Pecker
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It's the differences in speed that cause lane changes. This is what leads to accidents.
Agree 100% but large differences in speed by themselves can also contribute to accidents.
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You can be driving 30 MPH in the right lane and have someone pass you doing 120MPH. That's not unsafe.
While people who think this is unsafe are misguided I do think that while its not unsafe in and of itself, in practice it can be because with that much difference in speed the time it takes you to check your mirrors and then start your lane change is all the time needed for the vehicle doing 120 to suddenly appear in the lane youre moving into in that time window causing an accident.
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You should be less worried about the guy doing 100 MPH and more worried about cars that force people to slam on their breaks on a multilane highway.
Agree.
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The solution, as always, is to have slow traffic move right, whether you are driving the limit or not.
Agree.
I also use my cruise control EVERYWHERE I go. I havent gotten a traffic ticket in the 10+ years Ive been doing this.
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:31 pm to Pecker
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Accident and fatality rates are much lower on the German Autobahn, compared with US interstates, even though speed limits are higher (or in some places nonexistent) in Germany.
This is also because the German Polizei aggressively enforce the "left lane only for passing" laws. And if you get ticketed for cruising in the left lane, it can be several thousand Euros.
It was such a pleasure driving in Germany for the three and a half years I lived there. Then I had to come back to the fricktard drivers in the US.
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:49 pm to Hammertime
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I'm gonna speed. It doesn't bother me one bit to swerve in and out of traffic all day long. If people don't want me to, give me a lane to pass.
That's the whole idea behind how the Autobahn works and is the entire point of the study's conclusion.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:50 pm to Pecker
I agree. Pile ups can be caused by that nonsense.
Just let the speeder go by and get the ticket.
Just let the speeder go by and get the ticket.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:51 pm to Bmath
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That's the whole idea behind how the Autobahn works
I would like to see more restrictive barriers to prevent crossover accidents like they have on the Autobahn.
And faster repairs when cars collide with it.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:56 pm to Pecker
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You don't have to be speeding to be going faster than someone in the left lane.
In most of Louisiana you can be damn sure that the problem this addresses is the guy going 85 bearing down on the guy in the left hand lane doing 75 passing grandma in the right lane doing 65.
There is no debate here.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 1:00 pm to LSU316
quote:FIFY
the guy in the left hand lane doing 65.00001 passing grandma in the right lane doing 65
Posted on 5/10/17 at 1:14 pm to LSU316
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In most of Louisiana you can be damn sure that the problem this addresses is the guy going 85 bearing down on the guy in the left hand lane doing 75 passing grandma in the right lane doing 65.
There is no debate here.
Right. There's no issue here if the guy doing 75 moves over as soon as he passes grandma.
I feel like it's a really easy message to get across if the DOT in states across the country would spend more money on PSA's on lane discipline. People are genuinely ignorant when it comes to simple rules of the road.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 1:20 pm to Displaced
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How can cruising in the left lane be more dangerous than speeding if people weren't speeding in the first place.
People are speeding.
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If you remove the people speeding, then cruising in the left lane causes no problems. Therefore, the people speeding is what makes cruising in the left lane dangerous.
No, the study shows that even if people are speeding, it's not a big problem if people aren't cruising in the left lane.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 1:32 pm to Red Drum
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I've done my own research and on I-10 and I-12 in Louisiana, you can bet the house that the slow driver in the left lane has Texas plates.
The worst about Texas drivers is that if you're in the left and you see them coming from behind hauling arse, you slide over to let them pass and they get on the side of you and match your speed causing you to get stuck in slower traffic. This drives me insane.
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