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re: Reducing Payroll

Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:25 am to
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35482 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:25 am to
quote:

I've had to do this, every year, the last 8 years


If this has had to happen every year for 8 years then there is a problem. The company knows it's coming but does nothing to avoid it.

quote:

when times are good we all profit, when times are tough we all suffer.


Maybe you need to learn to even things out. During our slow times we've never had to reduce pay or cut people.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97615 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:26 am to
Cut 2
Posted by chesty
Flap City C.C.
Member since Oct 2012
12731 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:28 am to
I'd go A and if they bitch and complain you can always put it out there it's reduced hours or reduced number of employees.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136794 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:31 am to
Firing employees may not reduce payroll all that much

Filing for unemployment and all...

Do any employees have transferable skills within the company?
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 6:33 am
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14792 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:34 am to
quote:

Filing for unemployment and all...


Never seen UE come out of my payroll, I think Texas, it's only a small percentage back on the employer, maybe 25%..I could be way off though.

quote:

Do any employees have transferable skills within the company?


No.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48829 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:39 am to
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Always gotta be one in the crowd, eh?


It's a legitimate question.
Posted by DownSouthDave
Beau, Bro, Baw
Member since Jan 2013
7366 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:40 am to
quote:

7 weeks PTO


This exists?
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30545 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:40 am to
Considering you've done this 5 years in a row, I'd say there needs to be a change. Seems like a reoccurring problem that funds from busier times of the year aren't budgeted appropriately to last the whole year effectively. I would fight not to make any changes until they make a permanent solution to the problem, then do a time reduction. It sounds like your business sustains the 2 employees 10/12 months of the year, I don't see why the budget couldn't be spread more effectively to accommodate them all the year
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14792 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:42 am to
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It's a legitimate question.


I'll be taking a reduction in hours as well.
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
14853 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:44 am to
It would help if we knew how many employees

IF it is 10 or more Then B is the right answer

Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136794 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:45 am to
quote:

would help if we knew how many employees
You did not read the thread b/c that answer was provided
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14792 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:46 am to
quote:

It sounds like your business sustains the 2 employees 10/12 months of the year, I don't see why the budget couldn't be spread more effectively to accommodate them all the year



Each month of the year presents a different scenario. It's not as if I'm given 360k/yr for payroll and can just slice it by 12, and go on my way.
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 6:49 am
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136794 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:47 am to
Cut all wages now by half of what you would normally cut.

Release 2 employees on Jan 15

Hire temp workers during busy season.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14792 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:51 am to
quote:

Cut all wages now by half of what you would normally cut.

Release 2 employees on Jan 15


Savings need to be through end of 2016. No word on start of '17; however it's normal operating procedures that this reduction continues through end of January, at the minimum.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136794 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:53 am to
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Savings need to be through end of 2016.
I don't know how your group work

Most employees will assume that this correlates with management bonus structures

Rollover into next quarter equates to starting new year on best foot possible

Real talk. Let 2 people go. Rehire them in 2 months, if possible, as hourly employees.

If my company came to to us with this on an annual basis, it would take care of itself. People would walk with the quickness
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 6:56 am
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14792 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:57 am to
quote:

Most employees will assume that this correlates with management bonus structures


My employees would burn this place down if they knew the bonus pay out of reported top 5 in company.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 7:00 am to
Cut management who do not bring in money anyway
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 7:00 am to
Are you 400% sure none of them post here or know your username?

Because your sure are making it easier and easier to narrow this down
Posted by DownSouthDave
Beau, Bro, Baw
Member since Jan 2013
7366 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 7:01 am to
Find yourself a couple outdoorsman to come in and they will be more than happy to take off Dec/Jan off every year with 7 weeks pto.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136794 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 7:14 am to
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Find yourself a couple outdoorsman to come in and they will be more than happy to take off Dec/Jan off every year with 7 weeks pto.
smdh

The group is trying to cut salary

Taking pto is not cutting salary
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