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Reducing Payroll

Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:02 am
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14794 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:02 am
As a manager, given the following two options, which would you go with?

A. Reduce all employees hours for the next 1-3 months

B. Cut 2 employees, with the caveat they may be hired back after the reduction, and keep everyone else at their standard hours/wk

Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:04 am to
Cut 2 employees.




Nice of you to do this at Christmas, prick.














J/K. Sucks having to make these decisions. Good luck.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
41598 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:05 am to
Easily B
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
132353 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:06 am to
Cheat each employee out 5 minutes.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:07 am to
What percentage of your workforce is 2 employees? If it's a small percentage itll probably be very easy to find 2 who should have been gone a long time ago.

Either way, shitty decision to have to make, especially in December.
Posted by Bullfrog
Institutionalized but Unevaluated
Member since Jul 2010
56253 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:09 am to
Why don't y'all just figure out how to sell more widgets? Keep everyone working full time?

Corporate anorexia will cause burnout and losing your ability to do the business of your business, as good as it should be done.
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 6:11 am
Posted by TigerV
Member since Feb 2007
2505 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:09 am to
Cut two employees. If you do not have enough meaningful work for the staff then reducing payroll does no good to solve your underlying problem
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30575 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:12 am to
This isn't as easy as saying A or B. We need more info
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14794 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:14 am to
quote:

What percentage of your workforce is 2 employees?


20%. I've had to do this, every year, the last 8 years. I've always went with reducing all employee hours..I roll with the motto, 'Hey, we're a team...when times are good we all profit, when times are tough we all suffer.'

Notwithstanding is that most of my employees have been with the company 15+ years and receive above industry standards PTO.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14794 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:17 am to
The reduction period is really a guesstimate, it could be as short as 8 weeks or as long as 16 weeks.

Also noteworthy would be, this was the first full year where I wasn't asked earlier to save on payroll, until now obviously. I'd say my average employee made anywhere from 17-25% more YTD pay, than any other year.
Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
4689 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:18 am to
quote:

receive above industry standards PTO.

Think I found a way to reduce some of that payroll you were asking about.
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
21924 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:18 am to
Do you have 2 employees that need to be cut?

If not I'd go with option A
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27824 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:19 am to
Cut 2. and don't hire them back. Likely better candidates out there assuming you cut from the bottom.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14794 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:20 am to
quote:

Think I found a way to reduce some of that payroll you were asking about.


Grandfathered clauses and shite. Not my decision. 70% of my employees are getting 7 weeks PTO/yr.
Posted by Rockbrc
Attic
Member since Nov 2015
7919 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:21 am to
A
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14794 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:22 am to
quote:

Corporate anorexia will cause burnout and losing your ability to do the business of your business, as good as it should be done.


Agreed. The higher-ups normally cut hours/expenses from my department, whenever savings are needed..this yr was a big push to cut from other departments first. Those departments are now in their busy season, so the move as shifted into my area, as my dept. is in it's frick off season.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136811 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:22 am to
quote:

.I roll with the motto, 'Hey, we're a team...when times are good we all profit, when times are tough we all suffer.'
so then you are taking a cut as well

Admirable
Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
4689 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:22 am to
quote:

Grandfathered clauses and shite. Not my decision. 70% of my employees are getting 7 weeks PTO/yr.


Ouch. Had a feeling there was some clause you couldn't change. Hard to cut hours when employees have that much PTO. Tough situation.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14794 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:24 am to
quote:

so then you are taking a cut as well


Always gotta be one in the crowd, eh?
Posted by Mir
Member since Sep 2016
2777 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:25 am to
C. Pit your employees against each other in gladiatorial combat until two die.

Off of company property of course.
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