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re: Recycling
Posted on 11/2/15 at 12:10 pm to Tigertown in ATL
Posted on 11/2/15 at 12:10 pm to Tigertown in ATL
I throw everything in the recycling bin and let the folks deal with it
Posted on 11/2/15 at 12:17 pm to rutiger
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Same.
Now i need a rain barrel.
If you ever want some brewing grains to compost... I can give you plenty, once or twice a month.
Posted on 11/2/15 at 12:38 pm to LSUBoo
I recycle because I have the large bin that is picked up once a week and I don't have to sort. Prior to that it was a pain in the arse to sort and use they small bins. It's not that hard.
I have a cistern at my property that I use to water my garden - or really just a big elevated tank that is gravity fed. I have a water well also but I had a big tank with nothing to use it for and the well isn't near the garden. Just a way to use up and get use of rainwater.
The one thing that I try to avoid and wish would be outlawed is the plastic bags from grocery stores. Those things are bad.
I have a cistern at my property that I use to water my garden - or really just a big elevated tank that is gravity fed. I have a water well also but I had a big tank with nothing to use it for and the well isn't near the garden. Just a way to use up and get use of rainwater.
The one thing that I try to avoid and wish would be outlawed is the plastic bags from grocery stores. Those things are bad.
Posted on 11/2/15 at 12:43 pm to Martini
It's pretty easy to recycle in N.O. so we do it. And, yeah, it's more about landfill than energy, imo.
Posted on 11/2/15 at 12:46 pm to Tigertown in ATL
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I recycle probably twice as much stuff as I throw in the trash.
Posted on 11/2/15 at 2:59 pm to Tigertown in ATL
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I recycle probably twice as much stuff as I throw in the trash.
I need a recycle bin the size of my trash can. And it never fails that a holiday falls on recycle day, so I end up with an overflowing recycle bin and a trash can that's barely got anything in it. We compost as well, so there's not a whole lot that goes into the actual trash can. I go weeks without dragging it to the curb, but I'll be damned if I'll miss a week bringing the recycle bin out.
Posted on 11/2/15 at 3:03 pm to rutiger
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Now i need a rain barrel.
I have a rain barrel attached to my down spout. Its kinda cool, but I really need about 5 more to be really helpful.
I'm a composting fool though, so hopefully that makes up for my lack of recycling...
Posted on 11/2/15 at 3:07 pm to Walt OReilly
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I've never recycled anything in my life.
+1
Recycling is a scam. It's not cost efficient. It's part of the deep ecology movement from the 70s. I do have a compost pile for my garden. That's efficient over buying new soil every year.
Posted on 11/2/15 at 3:28 pm to Zach
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Recycling is a scam. It's not cost efficient.
Not cost efficient doesn't have to mean scam. Landfills are basically permanent.
Posted on 11/2/15 at 3:32 pm to rutiger
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Now i need a rain barrel.
I have a 250 gallon rain barrel that provides enough water until the summer.....and except for my small veggie garden, I don't water much at all. My lawn and ornamental plants are all native/ drought tolerant. But to have enough water for the summer I would need at least 1000 gallons.
Posted on 11/2/15 at 3:51 pm to Salmon
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but I really need about 5 more to be really helpful.
Drew up plans the other day for a 500 gallon cistern that gravity feeds into my garden. Now lets see if I can implement those plans before spring.
Small rain barrels are more feel good than useful.
This post was edited on 11/2/15 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 11/2/15 at 4:12 pm to Tigertown in ATL
Scam. I don't recycle a thing.
Posted on 11/2/15 at 4:30 pm to Jake88
In Jefferson Parish, we pay for it, might as well use it!
We have 2 full bins every week and very little garbage.
We have 2 full bins every week and very little garbage.
Posted on 11/2/15 at 5:33 pm to Jake88
Not a scam. Some people simply misunderstand it's purpose and benefits. Plus they reflexively react to what they perceive as being "liberal" or "hippie". Dorks.'
Posted on 11/2/15 at 6:15 pm to Tigertown in ATL
I know of no such provided opportunity or service to recycle things around here. Most folks probably think it means ride your bike again.
Posted on 11/2/15 at 7:36 pm to Tigertown in ATL
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quote: Recycling is a scam. It's not cost efficient.
Not cost efficient doesn't have to mean scam. Landfills are basically permanent.
It's not a scam, it's a tool and when used right it can be more cost efficient than just throwing plastic or steel away. If all of it was tossed we would be out of landfill space. Not to mention the reduction in water use, mining, pollution, forestry.
All cold formed metal is recycled steel and most appliances are majority recycled steel from existing appliances or cars. Plastic bottle are recyclable and most water bottles have a big portion of recycled plastic. Same with glass, cardboard and paper products.
To say its a scam is just being lazy.
Posted on 11/2/15 at 8:40 pm to Martini
A lot of myths to debunk up in here.
Most steel recycling and other metal recycling is done whether you throw it in the recycle bin or in the garbage. Most waste management companies utilize the metal and other profitable waste material on their own, using their own sorting methods. All of that is great.
What is a scam is that many recycling programs are an added expense to tax payers and it gives you the idea that it is benefitting the earth somehow. Only a tiny percentage of plastic material that is gathered for recycling is actually used. The rest is incinerated or buried, after energy is wasted to collect it, sort it, and shred it. But hey, it makes us feel better, right?
More emphasis needs to be placed on the other two R's: Reduce and Reuse
We have WAY too much packaging on our products. It's ridiculous. And we have far too few items that are made to last anymore, much less be reused.
We actually spend tremendous amounts of R&D on how to make products break down faster and in ways that seem more palatable to the public. Appliances are made to last a precise amount of time, to look good the entire "short" life span, and then have one part break such that the cost of replacement is a motivator to buy a new one, but not obviously so.
Companies know that we tend to shift the blame in our minds onto ourselves as consumers for "choosing" to buy a new refrigerator at $1,000, instead of repairing it which would cost $475. The companies actually research the exact price point of the replacement part and cost of service to maximize this effect. That's why your salesman and repairman will both suggest that "it's time to buy new" often before knowing the problem, just because it's been 8 years.
I know I have taken this discussion on a tangent, but it's relevant.
quote:. There is not really a shortage of space for landfills. Yes, landfills get full, but there is no shortage of space, not by a loooong shot. Municipal landfills are now a rarity. Landfills are a big business and we pay for that with our taxes. What we should really be investing in is incinerators that use the heat generated to make electricity. Now we are really talking conservation, but for some reason, the green lobby opposes them.
If all of it was tossed we would be out of landfill space.
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All cold formed metal is recycled steel and most appliances are majority recycled steel from existing appliances or cars. Plastic bottle are recyclable and most water bottles have a big portion of recycled plastic. Same with glass, cardboard and paper products.
Most steel recycling and other metal recycling is done whether you throw it in the recycle bin or in the garbage. Most waste management companies utilize the metal and other profitable waste material on their own, using their own sorting methods. All of that is great.
What is a scam is that many recycling programs are an added expense to tax payers and it gives you the idea that it is benefitting the earth somehow. Only a tiny percentage of plastic material that is gathered for recycling is actually used. The rest is incinerated or buried, after energy is wasted to collect it, sort it, and shred it. But hey, it makes us feel better, right?
More emphasis needs to be placed on the other two R's: Reduce and Reuse
We have WAY too much packaging on our products. It's ridiculous. And we have far too few items that are made to last anymore, much less be reused.
We actually spend tremendous amounts of R&D on how to make products break down faster and in ways that seem more palatable to the public. Appliances are made to last a precise amount of time, to look good the entire "short" life span, and then have one part break such that the cost of replacement is a motivator to buy a new one, but not obviously so.
Companies know that we tend to shift the blame in our minds onto ourselves as consumers for "choosing" to buy a new refrigerator at $1,000, instead of repairing it which would cost $475. The companies actually research the exact price point of the replacement part and cost of service to maximize this effect. That's why your salesman and repairman will both suggest that "it's time to buy new" often before knowing the problem, just because it's been 8 years.
I know I have taken this discussion on a tangent, but it's relevant.
Posted on 11/2/15 at 9:20 pm to Jimbeaux
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Only a tiny percentage of plastic material that is gathered for recycling is actually used. The rest is incinerated or buried, after energy is wasted to collect it, sort it, and shred it. But hey, it makes us feel better, right?
This is exactly what I am "worried" about.
Posted on 11/2/15 at 9:23 pm to Jimbeaux
Municipal landfills are filling up and municipalities are shipping across country and yes it is big business but it's getting to be nimby business. And incinerating for energy is both recycling and conserving as well as generating. I agree it should be done and have no clue why the green lobby would oppose-well yes I do.
Louisiana has a mandate to reduce landfill solid waste and BR still has a municipal landfill which is the second location. I don't care about feeling good for saving the earth. As I said, it's just a tool and if looked at it like that I see no reason not to especially since it is as hard as dropping into a recycle bin or garbage bin both of which are side by side in my garage and then rolling to the street.
As long as there is a market for recycled bails it is sold and the majority is sold overseas but yes if no market is available it is disposed of.
I agree with reduce and reuse. The packaging is very bad now as opposed to the standard cardboard box of my youth. Not to mention I need a chainsaw to get into most of it.
Louisiana has a mandate to reduce landfill solid waste and BR still has a municipal landfill which is the second location. I don't care about feeling good for saving the earth. As I said, it's just a tool and if looked at it like that I see no reason not to especially since it is as hard as dropping into a recycle bin or garbage bin both of which are side by side in my garage and then rolling to the street.
As long as there is a market for recycled bails it is sold and the majority is sold overseas but yes if no market is available it is disposed of.
I agree with reduce and reuse. The packaging is very bad now as opposed to the standard cardboard box of my youth. Not to mention I need a chainsaw to get into most of it.
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