re: Race baiting student put in her place again by Supreme Court

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When mentioning the poorer performing students that were admitted ahead of this girl they mention grades and test scores. However, when trying to claim there were better performing minorities that were also not admitted, salon only mentions grades.


Care to address my retort of the section of the article you so gleefully made the cornerstone of your position?

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Of the 841 students admitted under these criteria, 47 had worse AI/PAI scores (a combination of the holistic measure, grades, and test scores) than Fisher, and 42 of them were white. On the other end, UT rejected 168 black and Latino students with scores equal to or better than Fisher’s.

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Now bash the source all you want, but it does not change the factual data.

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True. And the particular "facts" chosen by the liars at salon stand weightless in this argument.

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Of course. WHen you disagree with the facts, just use the adage, "they lied and made the data up". Despite other sources reporting the same factual data. See above.

From your article:

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For the remaining 8 percent of in-state spots, UT Austin used a comprehensive approach that weighed grades and test scores along with essays, leadership, activities, service to the community, and “special circumstances.” Those ranged from socioeconomic status and school quality, to family background and race. As the university’s director of admissions explained for the 5th Circuit, “[R]ace provides—like language, whether or not someone is the first in their family to attend college, and family responsibilities—important context in which to evaluate applicants, and is only one aspect of the diversity that the University seeks to attain.”

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My point stands immaterially contested by your link.

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AI/PAI

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Yet again. Whatever this score is considers characteristics like race, which is of course the point of the suit, so the "scores" are not the "scores" referenced by salon.

Are you seriously leveraging your argument on scoring that considers race when arguing that race did not impact this woman's application?

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AI/PAI scores

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Is the applicant's race factored into this score at all?

Decided to look it up and this is what I found:

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The Academic Index (“AI”) is based on standardized test scores and high school class rank, while the Personal Achievement Index (“PAI”) reflects the strength of the applicant’s essays and a “personal achievement score.” To calculate the personal achievement score, UT considers the applicant’s leadership abilities, awards and honors, work experience, extracurricular activities, and “special circumstances,” which may include socioeconomic status, family status, and race.

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I don't really care about the merits of her case. Affirmative action is bullshite and should have been abolished a long time ago. If this case pushes affirmative action off the cliff tell me where to push

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I agree. I am very much anti-affirmative action. Admissions should be color blind. I am for consideration of other factors sch as extra curricular, community involvement, etc. But not race.

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again, 42 of the 47 were white who were not admitted. and of the 841, 168 who were black or Latino were rejected. These numbers do not favor her argument that she was rejected because of her race.

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But, how many of the admitted students with higher scores than Fisher had higher scores because of their race?

It won't really matter though, because the Supreme Court has already said that considering race as a single factor is okay.

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that she was not chosen because of her race does not appear hold water. So said two Texas course, including their COurt of Appeals x 2

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You can't possibly be trying to claim that the opinion of a few buffoons in black bath robes holds water in a debate of any substance.