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re: Race baiting student put in her place again by Supreme Court
Posted on 12/13/15 at 9:39 am to EZE Tiger Fan
Posted on 12/13/15 at 9:39 am to EZE Tiger Fan
well if you want the most dishonest set of horsehit, the last 2 paragraphs are great
you understand the whole "diversity" argument, right? why it is promoted and all that
well the author completely lies about it and acts like there isn't some overarching push for diversity on campus and this case is about ensuring we provide opportunities for "promising" minorities and not "mediocre" students like the plaintiff
no school encourages diversity for individual students. the opportunities presented have nothing to do with the religious-like devotion to the concept of diversity on college campuses. the author purposefully ignores this to lie about the prospects of respective youths
you understand the whole "diversity" argument, right? why it is promoted and all that
well the author completely lies about it and acts like there isn't some overarching push for diversity on campus and this case is about ensuring we provide opportunities for "promising" minorities and not "mediocre" students like the plaintiff
no school encourages diversity for individual students. the opportunities presented have nothing to do with the religious-like devotion to the concept of diversity on college campuses. the author purposefully ignores this to lie about the prospects of respective youths
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Posted on 12/13/15 at 9:41 am to Poodlebrain
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Salon must truly believe that standardized tests do not offer equal opportunities to all,
in these discussions you will see people push standardized testing to the wayside
that's why i called it the "Richard Sherman" argument
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or it is somehow the mission of the University of Texas to redress the unequal opportunities between students from poor and affluent districts.
they do believe this
they also believe that it's important to ensure that good students meet "diversity" while on campus because diversity somehow has intrinsic value. when they say "diversity" it almost always means "more black people" and sometimes merans "more latinos", but it never means "more asians"
why? because this isn't about creating diversity (from the dominant white population), as claimed
This post was edited on 12/13/15 at 9:42 am
Posted on 12/13/15 at 9:42 am to LSUTANGERINE
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So how do you know I am really concerns me? It certainly won't ever effect me or my family. And if I was so concerned, how do you know it's not the least of my concerns? Because you don't your entire premise and "dismantling" is hogwash.
Then alter your post history....
Or just change the title of your OP, and quote another article.
It was a cute "gotcha" attempt on your part, was it not? If not, you sure did a good job of "fooling" several people who have responded and dismantled the OP.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 9:42 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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It goes much deeper than that. This is just one state with one parameter. I sat in on these committees. I knew others from schools across the country and we would share stories. The things I saw and heard. It was just....... Yeah, enough. I'm going to enjoy the comments from here on out.
I am sure it does. I believe admissions should be blind to race.
This post was edited on 12/13/15 at 9:43 am
Posted on 12/13/15 at 9:44 am to LSUTANGERINE
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I believe admissions should be blind to race.
those protesters at Missouri are gonna getcha
Posted on 12/13/15 at 9:48 am to SlowFlowPro
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you understand the whole "diversity" argument, right? why it is promoted and all that
Yes, I shared my experience in higher ed here several years ago when I almost lost my job. I had the unfortunate experience of, at the time, being the most successful minority recruiter. It was unfortunate because I was white.
When I introduced lists of hundreds of very qualified Asians and Latinos, I had to be "reeducated" on what a "Minority" was, according to the definitions provided by members of the campus NAACP. One of the members whose job I had taken over and nearly doubled his numbers.
That wasn't well received. Instead of thanking me, I then became a "racist". Needless to say, everything I believed at that point got hit with a serious dose of "reality".
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well the author completely lies about it and acts like there isn't some overarching push for diversity on campus and this case is about ensuring we provide opportunities for "promising" minorities and not "mediocre" students like the plaintiff
Yeah, I don't want to read that. I'm in a great career now and got out of higher ed because of shite like that. I don't want anymore flashbacks today. LOL
Posted on 12/13/15 at 10:01 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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Then alter your post history....
Yeah I'll stop pointing out blatant racism that many are known here for.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 10:12 am to LSU_Saints_Hornets
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So I take it you strongly disagree with segregation, jim crowe, and ghettos.
To the extent that any of those were the result of government involvement in the manner in which free people choose to associate, or choose not to associate, yes I disagree.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 10:14 am to LSUTANGERINE
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LSUTANGERINE
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When mentioning the poorer performing students that were admitted ahead of this girl they mention grades and test scores. However, when trying to claim there were better performing minorities that were also not admitted, salon only mentions grades.
Care to address my retort of the section of the article you so gleefully made the cornerstone of your position?
Posted on 12/13/15 at 10:17 am to TooFyeToFly
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Noble cause my man. Props to you, especially considering the shite that people post on this board.
and an example follows......
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Noble cause my man. Props to you, especially considering the shite that people post on this board.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 12:13 pm to Turbeauxdog
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Care to address my retort of the section of the article you so gleefully made the cornerstone of your position?
I merely posted an article. No cornerstone of a position. I certainly did not express glee or any emotion.
I do t know why the article posted mentioned grades only. Does that mean their scores were not also better? I don't know. The fact that her case has been a lost cause or turned down at every venue speaks volumes though.
This post was edited on 12/13/15 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 12/13/15 at 1:21 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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I merely posted an article. No cornerstone of a position. I certainly did not express glee or any emotion.
Not only did you quote that speific snippet of the article, not only did you bold this speific snippet of the article, you also felt it carried such gravitas that you deemed this specific snippet of the article worthy of an underline. And the title of the op speaks to your emotion on the issue.
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I do t know why the article posted mentioned grades only.
Yes you do.
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Does that mean their scores were not also better? I don't know.
Yes you do. Salon would not have passed the opportunity to bring that information to light.
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The fact that her case has been a lost cause or turned down at every venue speaks volumes though
Given the case made it to the Supreme Court, your opinion is quite silly.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 1:39 pm to LSUTANGERINE
That girl isn't hot enough to cause all of this drama...
....not even close.
....not even close.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 1:42 pm to yankeeundercover
This is what she's been up to since starring as the granddaughter in the original Jurassic Park?
Posted on 12/13/15 at 2:15 pm to Stagg8
Posted on 12/13/15 at 2:18 pm to LSUTANGERINE
Affirmative action is the ultimate race bait.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 2:48 pm to Turbeauxdog
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And the title of the op speaks to your emotion on the issue
Except my title did not have any feeling words in it.
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, not only did you bold this speific snippet of the article, you also felt it carried such gravitas that you deemed this specific snippet of the article worthy of an underline
I specifically underlined the factual data that contracted with her case. But I guess you know otherwise.
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Yes you do.
Merely opinion, an incorrect one at that, in your part.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 4:13 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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Except my title did not have any feeling words in it.
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Race baiting student put in her place again by Supreme Court by LSUTANGERINE
Clearly you approached this topic with a balanced and measured sentiment.
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I specifically underlined the factual data that contracted with her case. But I guess you know otherwise.
Because quoting it and bolding it would not convey that you felt it was relevant to the case. The extra step of underlying was purely for ease of reading I am sure.
I do know the weight you placed in these "facts" as I also know these "facts" are intentionally dishonest and carry little weight in this topic. I hope you do now as well.
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Merely opinion, an incorrect one at that, in your part.
You honestly don't now see that this conflation of facts was an intentional attempt by salon to distort perception of the case?
Posted on 12/13/15 at 4:28 pm to Turbeauxdog
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I do know the weight you placed in these "facts" as I also know these "facts" are intentionally dishonest and carry little weight in this topic. I hope you do now as well.
Facts are facts and able stand alone. I left out all the conjecture from Salon.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 4:39 pm to LSUTANGERINE
quote:No reason to be butthurt about it.
In other words some of the UT claims, parroted by the OP, appear dubious at best. In fact on the face of it, they appear to be an outright lie.
Yeah, I am sure they got one over the courts, including the Supreme Court. We will see what they say this time.
Do you believe out of 8000 freshmen enrolled there were only 47 students with poorer scores than hers?
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