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re: Private personal injury attorney vs. large firm
Posted on 4/6/16 at 4:10 pm to MoonrakerElite
Posted on 4/6/16 at 4:10 pm to MoonrakerElite
quote:Try telling them to stop treating when they are pain free. Wait, that was the next week
If an injured client is uninsured, the PI attorneys have no clue what the policy limits are 99% of the time. They have to balance paying their clients medicals against what the policy might be.
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Posted on 4/6/16 at 4:11 pm to DaTroof
quote:
Nah, in fact personal injury attorneys take very little risk. Your previous statement just got less believable.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Say a client dies or decides to walk away from the case and I've spent a bunch of money. That's not risk?
What if liability is disputed and I have to hire experts to prove my client's case. You think waiting for a jury decision isn't risk?
It takes a lot of investment for a big case with no guarantees, but you know it all, huh?
Posted on 4/6/16 at 4:11 pm to VetteGuy
quote:Holy crap. They pay WAY more than they should.
The problem is they don't like to pay what they legitimately should pay.
quote:Meh.
Diminished value is very easy to ascribe, at least on cars.
quote:She did very well.
Maybe the woman got a fair deal, maybe she didn't. I think she took a foolish risk.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 4:16 pm to Motorboat
quote:
It takes a lot of investment for a big case with no guarantees, but you know it all, huh?
Motorboat, since you're claiming to be the honest attorney here, do some quick math for me....Taking into account all the cases you've worked over the years, what percentage of cases would you say you actually lost money on?
Posted on 4/6/16 at 4:17 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
Holy crap. They pay WAY more than they should.
Debatable, but you damn well better get your own self some representation.
quote:
She did very well.
Good, but very much an outlier.
I would hope you would agree.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 4:19 pm to DaTroof
quote:
Motorboat, since you're claiming to be the honest attorney here, do some quick math for me....Taking into account all the cases you've worked over the years, what percentage of cases would you say you actually lost money on?
Very few. You know why? Because I'm good at what I do, especially managing risk.
I know other attorneys that lose money often. Guess what? They probably do family law or real estate now.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 4:20 pm to Motorboat
And so in your particular case my statement was absolutely true. Thank you, sir, court is adjourned
Posted on 4/6/16 at 4:21 pm to AlxTgr
quote:As a defense attorney, I'm sure you think so.
quote:
Maybe the woman got a fair deal, maybe she didn't. I think she took a foolish risk.
She did very well.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 4:22 pm to AlxTgr
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them to stop treating when they are pain free. Wait, that was the next week
This is why it's impossible to have a legit discussion in here. Your view is that all lawyers are sheisters that run up medicals.
I've never disagreed with the fact that some of them are, maybe even a lot of them. But in my post to the OP I specifically told him to avoid anyone that does this type of thing.
Also, the occurrence of jacking up medicals is mitigated by the fact that the insurance companies don't disclose policy limits, which incurs risk for the attorneys if they're paying for the medicals, which was the point of my reply.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 4:26 pm to Neauxla
I am so confused.
I can't believe I am arguing with a lawyer that people should have a lawyer.
That is usually what all the lawyers tell the posters to do, first thing.
I can't believe I am arguing with a lawyer that people should have a lawyer.
That is usually what all the lawyers tell the posters to do, first thing.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 4:29 pm to VetteGuy
I'm pretty sure he's a defense attorney. At least that's what I've garnered from his comments.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 4:31 pm to VetteGuy
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I can't believe I am arguing with a lawyer that people should have a lawyer.
ALX will argue whether the sky is blue just to mess with you, when in reality, he knows he needs someone to hire a lawyer so that he can get work.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 4:32 pm to Bill Dauterive
Where did this happen?
Posted on 4/6/16 at 4:33 pm to Motorboat
Maybe he is house counsel? Overworked and underpaid.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 4:33 pm to Motorboat
quote:
Motorboat
Do you hang your own sign? Or work for a small firm?
Posted on 4/6/16 at 4:34 pm to Neauxla
I don't know a single attorney that would ever tell a client, "you don't need a lawyer". (assuming it is a legit deal)
If for no other reason that you, as an individual, are too close to the case
For example...
If for no other reason that you, as an individual, are too close to the case
For example...
This post was edited on 4/6/16 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 4/6/16 at 4:35 pm to VetteGuy
quote:
They pay WAY more than they should.
quote:It's not debatable at all, but that statement didn't really have anything to do with the decision to obtain representation. If someone is in a fender bender and wants to treat with a chiro for over 15 months, then yeah, that person needs a lawyer.
Debatable, but you damn well better get your own self some representation.
quote:Yes, in the sense that I just don't see many people doing it. I had a guy represent himself in a diminution case. He could not prove his case, which was terrible, but turned down about 5 times what it was worth. He tried it and got nothing and owed costs. That guy needed a lawyer bad
Good, but very much an outlier.
I would hope you would agree.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 4:35 pm to Motorboat
quote:
ALX will argue whether the sky is blue
Well, he's pretty good since at one point, I couldn't tell what I was arguing.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 4:36 pm to VetteGuy
quote:
people should have a lawyer
Lawyers know full well that, generally speaking, you're going to get low balled to hell by the insurance company if you're not represented. They know this. The key is to find an attorney that's not going to take 30-40% of the total settlement including medical expenses. Call around until you find an attorney willing to take your case based on his/her fee being 30-40% of the amount of the settlement AFTER medical expenses are paid. This assures that he/she will work their hardest to settle the case for as much as possible without frivolously running up medical expenses and sending you to every one of their doctor friends in town that are all going to suggest bullshite unnecessary treatment.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 4:37 pm to Motorboat
quote:See, that's why I am the only one here with any credibility at all. My livelihood depends on you guys having a favorable environment. I go no skin in the game. You are an actual owner.
he knows he needs someone to hire a lawyer so that he can get work.
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