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re: 'Prayer Baby' drowns in church's baptism tank

Posted on 9/25/14 at 5:35 pm to
Posted by The Third Leg
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 5:35 pm to
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To you the church is guilty because you're against churches and anything bad about them must be and always is true.

More displaced anger and ignorance. It has nothing to do with the church; comically, I have not mentioned religion at all in this thread, but you keep coming back to this angle. A clear sign of poorly thought-out argumentation.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 5:39 pm to
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Maybe it was filled because the kid that died was getting baptized



Doubtful. Pentecostals(and many other Christian denominations besides the Catholic church) do NOT believe in infant baptism.
Posted by Dick Leverage
In The HizHouse
Member since Nov 2013
9000 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 5:49 pm to
"God needed another angel I guess"

Oh man! You are hilarious. It is always funny to make light of a person dying....even more so a 22 month old!


And BTW, though you are an obvious atheist, you should still know that people do not become angels. Angels are an entirely different creation than humans.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
13966 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 5:53 pm to
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Serious question...have you ever experienced the death of one of your own children? I have. And being brutally honest here...it really makes you question the premise of a loving God. What possible explanation could anyone give me to explain taking my child that would sooth a mother's heart? There is not one. From anyone, including God himself.


How is it possible to have free will AND a God that protects every move we make?
Posted by The Third Leg
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 5:55 pm to
How is it possible for a man to create the universe?
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
13966 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 5:57 pm to
Darth was right, you just want to take on faith.

Man didn't create the universe.
Posted by The Third Leg
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 6:00 pm to
I don't want to take on faith. Had that been my objective, I would have said something about religion before page six, and before a lengthy discussion of liability in which religion and faith are never mentioned.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
13966 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 6:08 pm to
Your thinly veiled jabs are transparent to anyone with an IQ north of 80. You don't know anything about this story. You don't know if a baptism had JUST occurred or was soon to occur. Yet somehow you are certain of liability.
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
Member since Jul 2013
11423 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 6:10 pm to
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quote: Nope. As long as your fence around it is up to proper code then you are fine..... You sure about that? Because I don't think that is true.


Think about this for a second.....so you are alluding that the millions of swimming pool owners (tend to be people with a little more $$ than the average American--not all, but most) would leave themselves and all their assets open for a suit just to have a pool without any type of protection?

Not a chance.

As a pool owner, I say you are wrong on this. You must have the proper enclosures set forth by parish/county ordinances. Most counties make this info available on their websites now.

If someone jumps the fence and drowns, it is not the home owner's responsibility if he can prove that he abided by all the county laws.
Posted by The Third Leg
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 6:12 pm to
None of that really matters. If a baptism had just occurred, why was the pool left unwatched, remaining accessible? That is the very definition of negligence relating to attractive nuisances.

The church owns the church, and the tank -- they are legally liable for them, not the parents of guests.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
13966 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 6:14 pm to
If you truly understand ANY subject you know that you cannot make definitive statements with such little information.
Posted by The Third Leg
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Member since May 2014
10044 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 6:21 pm to
Of course it's not definitive, but I think it is safe to assume that the church committed errors with their attractive nuisance that enabled this outcome. When you look at the standards of law, it's pretty difficult to surmise conditions that would remove liability from the church. Nobody is really offering any either.

This is a message board, not a court of law. These are the discussions that take place when news breaks here. There is an eight hundred page thread about that kid in Missouri lying around and nobody knew shite for all of it.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
13966 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 6:22 pm to
Keep playing dumb, you're pretty good at it.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 6:24 pm to
Church better start passing around the collection plate to cover their legal fees.
Posted by Sev09
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 10:01 pm to
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How tall does the fence need to be? 


No hard rule. You just need to show reasonable measure to keep outsiders, including children, from mistakenly drowning in your pool. Something that would hold up in court.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66397 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 10:12 pm to
jesus...
Posted by DrSteveBrule
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
12006 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 10:12 pm to
Did you really just use the word closed-minded prejudice in a sentence?

Liability of their own facility is not the only thing churches are allowed to get away with in this country, but 5 minutes of open-minded research will reveal that.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 10:14 pm to
It's 33 inches of water you overly litigious dickhead.

Posted by The Third Leg
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Member since May 2014
10044 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 10:18 pm to
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No hard rule. You just need to show reasonable measure to keep outsiders, including children, from mistakenly drowning in your pool. Something that would hold up in court.

Hmmmmm...
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10044 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 10:22 pm to
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It's 33 inches of water you overly litigious dickhead.

How tall is the median two-year-old? What about the seventy-fifth percentile?
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