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re: Planes over mainland USA now

Posted on 1/14/22 at 5:27 pm to
Posted by 3Son
1st Son in present times
Member since Jan 2017
2269 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 5:27 pm to
quote:

You believe that a majority of planes on the same flight path are only a thousand feet behind each other?


Allow me to clarify with my stupidity.....look between Miami and New Orleans...planes flying east(38000ft) are 1000ft below planes flying west(39000ft) virtually same flight path, thats what I'm looking at.
Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6028 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 5:29 pm to
quote:

You believe that a majority of planes on the same flight path are only a thousand feet behind each other?


I believe he’s talking about vertical separation, in which case they are often 1000 feet apart.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164365 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 5:30 pm to
I get what you're saying but you worded it poorly at first

The OT is pretty ching chong potato so I wouldn't worry about none of them getting it and laughing at you
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68438 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 5:31 pm to
quote:


Allow me to clarify with my stupidity.....look between Miami and New Orleans...planes flying east(38000ft) are 1000ft below planes flying west(39000ft) virtually same flight path, thats what I'm looking at
That's not the same flight path. One heads east, one west. What you should have said it when flight paths intersect, oftentimes one plane is only 1000 ft higher in altitude.
Posted by SalE
At the beach
Member since Jan 2020
2440 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 5:32 pm to
F1 calls this ...drafting...
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109266 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 5:32 pm to
quote:

Allow me to clarify with my stupidity.....look between Miami and New Orleans...planes flying east(38000ft) are 1000ft below planes flying west(39000ft) virtually same flight path, thats what I'm looking at.


They’re also a few miles apart when they pass each other. They account for return flights on this. No, you do not ever get within 1,000 feet of another plane. Fighter jets are so quick they never get within a mile of their targets, nevertheless a thousand feet.
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 5:33 pm
Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6028 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 5:33 pm to
quote:

There would be many collisions if that were true


Reduced Vertical Separation Minimums (RVSM) actually exists to avoid collisions.

Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109266 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 5:35 pm to
And they’re a few miles away too, which makes sense because often the take off ramp is the opposite of the landing ramp and that puts them a few miles off from the returning flight when they intersect.
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
23926 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 5:35 pm to
how far do you think 1000 feet is
Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6028 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 5:36 pm to
quote:

No, you do not ever get within 1,000 feet of another plane.


I’m an airline pilot, and planes absolutely get 1000 feet apart vertically (if they’re both RVSM certified).
Posted by OK Roughneck
The Sooner State
Member since Aug 2021
9603 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 5:37 pm to
Used Flightaware when I traveled its a great app. Pretty cool seeing your flight path especially when they were flying around avoiding storms.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29248 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 5:38 pm to
quote:

On a clear day I can look overhead and there's nearly always at least one contrail.



The last time that wasn’t the case was 9/11/01 when they grounded everything. It also gave scientists a unique opportunity to study the effects that contrails had on surface temperature and if they reflected enough light to be noticeable
Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6028 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 5:40 pm to
quote:

the take off ramp


The what?

quote:

take off ramp is the opposite of the landing ramp


You takeoff and land into the wind. Never land or takeoff with a tailwind.

The 1000 feet of vertical separation is for aircraft that are in the cruise portion of flight not takeoff or landing.
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 5:44 pm
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15767 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 5:45 pm to
Yeah nah.
Traffic is separated vertically by AT LEAST 1,000 feet on the airways but horizontally the limits are much more stringent.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
26059 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 5:46 pm to
Friday is a known Chemtrail day so this makes sense.
Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6028 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 5:47 pm to
Posted by 3Son
1st Son in present times
Member since Jan 2017
2269 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 5:51 pm to
quote:

What you should have said it when flight paths intersect, oftentimes one plane is only 1000 ft higher in altitude.



I started a shitstorm with my incorrect vocabularity.
Posted by 3Son
1st Son in present times
Member since Jan 2017
2269 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 5:53 pm to
BINGO!.....wish I knew about RVSM before I posted
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27031 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 5:55 pm to
I think 1000 feet is where alot of the "oh shite" alarms start going off. Sticks rattle and such.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131520 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 5:56 pm to
quote:

a majority of these planes are only 1000


Baw, you on dat kush.


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