re: Physicists ... what do you think about fifth dimension travel?

You said worm hole. hehe

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thanks ajax

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No prob RT...didn't mean to hijack thread. Saw it died down & had something to add so I did.

Not trolling at all, trying to figure this thing out like everybody else. Don't always have the energy to dig that deep...gave what I had. Appreciate y'all's input

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You really ought to do some more research on the subject.

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Where would I find this? Is there any scientific literature or just some interesting but unverified theories?

Depends if you are going for the "Scully" or the "Mulder" angle. A combo of both is probably best for balance.

The documentary I referenced is a good start for a general understanding of experiences and especially the audio/visual re-enactments are high quality and accurate compared to some of my experiences and others that I've read.

Academic studies will give you a sterile look at the phenomenon. There are plenty of YouTube channels and websites/threads of personal testimonies as well.

Browse if you're really interested with Google. I'm confident on the direction of my perspective b/c I've had a friend witness me going thru it as well as a family member. Also, a couple friends of mine have experienced similar SP episodes, & they have no reason to lie to me.

This will be polarizing to some, but Ephesians 6:12 states this theory well over 1,000 years ago
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"For our struggle is not against human opponents, but against rulers, authorities, cosmic powers in the darkness around us, and evil spiritual forces in the heavenly realm. "

If you've experienced SP, and have had OBE's on occasion totally sober, then it would make you pause to think they were onto something.

Unfortunately, our technology isn't advanced enough to produce quantifiable data on this topic as far as I know. Still, doesn't mean we should throw out the baby with the bathwater.

The fact that nearly every civilization on earth has documented the sleep paralysis phenomenon dating back over 1000 years should clue is in that there is something more living then just in the physical world that we can observe

ETA: correct me if I'm wrong, but in quantum physics, aren't there particles that behave differently when they are observed? That would make it difficult to produce the physical evidence you are seeking.

This fricking thread

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If the most accepted explanation of sleep paralysis is physiologica

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Most civilizations theorized they were spiritual phenomenon, not physiological. That's why i suggested you research the topic before jumping to conclusions.

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I mean obviously some observable physical evidence would be the most definitive,

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I haven't seen psychics mentioned once in this thread.
Was speaking in general quantum physics terms.

Do you think that it has any merit to investigate why some particles behave differently when observed vs unobserved? Seems pretty strange to me an unconscious particle behaves a certain way depending on whether we are watching or not. "The Awakening of Intelligence" is a good book to gain more insight on theories about "observers"

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Most civilizations theorized they were spiritual phenomenon, not physiological. That's why i suggested you research the topic before jumping to conclusions

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I figured that they had a spiritual explanation as we only recently began to have the capability to study the brain. I understand why they believed that, but I'm not sure why their explanations without the knowledge we have today, has any bearing.

I mean civilizations of the past had lots of spiritual or just plain strange explanations for the unknown which today is very well known (what stars are; what germs are, etc.). Their views, besides as a study of history and culture, shouldn't be considered some sort of valid evidence to refute the knowledge that has accumulated since.

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I haven't seen psychics mentioned once in this thread

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Well between that and telepathy, it's probably the most mainstream. They've done the same thing with people that have purported astral projections with comparably poor results for the "astral projection" hypothesis.

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Was speaking in general quantum physics terms.

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But physics generally provides the explanation, but we can test something without knowing the exact physical mechanisms. As mentioned before, quantum entanglement is not well-understood, but it can be shown nonetheless. If someone is truly telepathic, I wouldn't NEED to know the physical mechanisms to actually test whether they may have telepathic abilities. Just like we don't always know the exact mechanisms of drugs to know that they work.

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Do you think that it has any merit to investigate why some particles behave differently when observed vs unobserved?

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Sure. But attaching any explanation to the truly unexplainable is tricky. At least some explanations have a valid basis in the explained and therefore, following old Occam's Razor are more logically consistent. When you start to present explanations that have not had that basis, then while interesting, it's not any more valid than a thousand (maybe infinite) other explanations with no basis.

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"The Awakening of Intelligence" is a good book to gain more insight on theories about "observers

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It sounds like an interesting read, but I think you and I have vastly different views on what is evidence, beyond philosophical theory.

While I'm sure it's interesting and insightful, from a philosophical standpoint, just like topics like existentialism, free will, etc., but none of these seem to really provide input into the validity of the topic at hand.

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BTW...the guy's doctorate is in the field of dentistry. One does not see too many of these motherfrickers whizzing through space.

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The jokes on the other dentists then. Aliens have horrible dental hygiene. So this guy is making $$$$.

Damn. Y'all are whacked as hell. There's a whole new dimension of crazy on display in this thread.