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re: Physicists ... what do you think about fifth dimension travel?

Posted on 2/10/16 at 8:36 am to
Posted by Bruce_Wayne
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Posted on 2/10/16 at 8:36 am to
Millions of people lie for attention. Happens every day. Just look at this thread
Posted by AjaxFury
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Posted on 2/10/16 at 8:42 am to
I would fight you IRL and destroy you. Can't emphasize that enough.
Posted by Bruce_Wayne
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Posted on 2/10/16 at 8:47 am to


No you wouldn't
Posted by AjaxFury
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Posted on 2/10/16 at 8:59 am to
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Number of Posts: 10
Registered on: 2/3/2016


The fact I noticed you made an account solely to flame people on a TD forum is me checking your knuckles....
........and they are baby soft.

No man worth their salt would take time out of their life simply to flame threads.

Let me re-emphasize more clearly.
I would destroy you.

It's really that simple.
Posted by Bruce_Wayne
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Posted on 2/10/16 at 9:05 am to
I made an account for national signing day...this thread is just a bonus.

And wtf are you talking about checking knuckles? Is that some fifth dimension lingo for giving hand jobs in the men's locker room?

I don't think a man worth his salt would be making threats to random people on the Internet. It's a sign of poor breeding.

It's really that simple.
Posted by SpqrTiger
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Posted on 2/10/16 at 9:06 am to
I think this thread is awesome. I'm not convinced of anything in it, but I'm interested in dreams and how the mind works.

But the thing I like most about this thread is that we have a few people in it who have experiences and beliefs that are not what the majority of us have experienced or believe in. Obviously, they would want the opportunity to discuss those things with others. But where would they do so? On forums dedicated to the paranormal, the people there are often too far on the edge of reason, that quality discussion with them is next to impossible.

So I'm left with the impression that Tigerdroppings is just regular and irregular enough to have this discussion here. That's pretty cool. It shows you what a great community we have.

I like reading about people with different life experiences and beliefs from me. How we all perceive the universe is unique, and there's hardly anything more interesting than that to me.


Posted by LSU1NSEC
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Posted on 2/10/16 at 9:08 am to
nice work, Heather
Posted by thegreatboudini
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Posted on 2/10/16 at 9:15 am to
I never realized there were enough physicists on here to bring this to 12 pages.
Posted by AjaxFury
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Posted on 2/10/16 at 9:21 am to
voice of reason, thank you man.

It's too early to deal with the trolling shite, though I realize these are their peak hours.

I couldn't have said it better myself. Figured my bayou brethren would be good to share with, and for the most part I was right. Big ups...
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 2/10/16 at 9:22 am to
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I never realized there were enough physicists on here to bring this to 12 pages.
I think I'm the only person here who even has a degree in physics

And as you might expect, to someone with a real education in physics, this thread contains a lot of bad ideas about how physics actually works. As someone with training in anatomy and physiology, it has a lot of bad ideas about how the mind and body work.

People believing in things I don't believe in doesn't bother me. What bothers me is when they abuse subjects for which I'm passionate (physics, anatomy, physiology) to support their beliefs. Much of what has been said in this thread about physics and anatomy is simply wrong. It's frustrating to read this stuff because there's so much of it that it would take me all day to refute.

That's the problem with pseudoscience--it's much easier to take some big words from science and construct smart-sounding stories. It's easy to convince people that there might be some truth to it. But to explain why that idea is wrong is much harder, because you have to actually teach the person the real science. Real science is less digestible than pseudoscience to the layman.
This post was edited on 2/10/16 at 9:29 am
Posted by AjaxFury
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Posted on 2/10/16 at 9:29 am to


quote:

And as you might expect, to someone with a real education in physics, this thread contains a lot of bad ideas about how physics actually works. As someone with training in anatomy and physiology, it has a lot of bad ideas about how the mind and body work.


Yet you still offer no solutions to the problem a few posters here are experiencing, so that piece of paper is irrelevant in this discussion.

If you can offer a NEW idea of substance, instead of policing what everyone says on here (which most is personal experience anyways), then I'd love to hear your thoughts on it.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 2/10/16 at 9:41 am to
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Yet you still offer no solutions to the problem a few posters here are experiencing, so that piece of paper is irrelevant in this discussion.

If you can offer a NEW idea of substance, instead of policing what everyone says on here (which most is personal experience anyways), then I'd love to hear your thoughts on it.
Which specific problem? This thread is all over the place.

And no, my understanding of physics is still relevant if you guys are saying things that are patently untrue about physics when trying to explain your experiences. I don't have to offer an alternative explanation to be able to tell you that your explanation is wrong. You have to prove that your explanation is right.
This post was edited on 2/10/16 at 9:43 am
Posted by AjaxFury
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Posted on 2/10/16 at 9:55 am to
It's a circular argument with you.

I asked if you had anything to add. You have been reading the thread.

My focus was my lifelong experiences in SP. Do you have any insight as to why this is happening to myself or others suffering the same phenomenon using your science background?

Serious question. I'll be checking back later for a response. Thanks in advance.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 2/10/16 at 10:42 am to
quote:

It's a circular argument with you.

I asked if you had anything to add. You have been reading the thread.

My focus was my lifelong experiences in SP. Do you have any insight as to why this is happening to myself or others suffering the same phenomenon using your science background?

Serious question. I'll be checking back later for a response. Thanks in advance.
The experience of sleep paralysis, including the strange experiences or hallucinations, is the consequence of REM sleep overlapping with wakefulness. REM sleep is characterized by atonia (paralysis) due to the inhibition of motor neurons in your brain which control your skeletal muscles, plus increased activity of neurons in the cortex and thalamus. In other words, during REM sleep, most of your muscles are paralyzed, but some parts of your brain are unusually active. Most importantly, your thalamus and cortex are more active, and those structures are responsible for your sensory experience. That's why you dream during REM sleep.

However, if you become conscious while your mind is still at least partially in REM mode, then you can experience paralysis and unusual sensory experiences (one might call these 'hallucinations') while you are conscious. This usually lasts just a short time before you regain your ability to move and the hallucinations end.

Sleep paralysis isn't that uncommon. I've experienced it once or twice that I can remember. I woke up and couldn't move, and had the strong feeling that something was in my room at the foot of the bed, but I couldn't make myself turn over or sit up to look. However, I'd read about sleep paralysis before, and I knew that if I concentrated on moving my fingers and toes, that I could eventually move. After about 10 seconds I was able to slowly move my toes, and soon I was able to get up. As I regained my ability to move, the sensation that something was at the foot of my bed also diminished.

People who experience sleep paralysis regularly usually have underlying sleep disorders like narcolepsy or sleep apnea. Others have anxiety disorders (since various neurotransmitters play a role in your sleep cycles... for instance, in REM sleep, monoamine neurotrasmitters such as dopamine and serotonin are normally completely absent).

Taking anti-anxiety or anti-depressant medication can get rid of sleep paralysis for some people. But it likely depends on the specific physiology of the person and the reason they're experiencing sleep paralysis.

Ultimately, sleep paralysis is a physiological phenomenon that is best understood through the lens of science and medicine. It is often associated with sleep disorders and anxiety disorders, but it's not uncommon for people who don't suffer from these disorders to experience sleep paralysis on occasion.

It's notable that REM sleep is when dreaming occurs, so it makes sense that the continuation of REM sleep during consciousness results in strange sensory experiences.
Posted by thegreatboudini
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Posted on 2/10/16 at 11:31 am to
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I think I'm the only person here who even has a degree in physics



I'm a degreed geologist and geophysicists so while I am no physicist, I do understand physics better than your average joe.

Curious about how you are a degree physicist, with training in anatomy and physiology, because I have an eerily similar background.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 2/10/16 at 12:00 pm to
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I'm a degreed geologist and geophysicists so while I am no physicist, I do understand physics better than your average joe.

Curious about how you are a degree physicist, with training in anatomy and physiology, because I have an eerily similar background.
Ah cool, I have a little experience with using GPR and ERT for archaeological surveys.

I studied physics and took electives in anatomy/physiology as preparation for admission to a professional program at a medical sciences university. I work in the physics group of an oncology department now.
This post was edited on 2/10/16 at 12:01 pm
Posted by 337tigergirl
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Posted on 2/10/16 at 7:02 pm to
So I've read through most of this thread... A few posters have said that the entities will take over your body...

Has there ever been anyone that didn't come back?

I'm talking insidious style. It's all very interesting but I'm a bit skeptical of course. If the entities take over, do you become a different person?
Posted by AjaxFury
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Posted on 3/23/16 at 1:19 am to
Wanted to see how long it's been since my last SP (been having them almost nightly past 2-3 weeks).

Just broke out of one that took several minutes too long (no visuals/just bad energy)...and am spiritually sapped.

Thread will probably be buried by the time it's prime time again, so nay-Sayers, don't freak out & be cool
Posted by AjaxFury
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Posted on 3/23/16 at 1:23 am to
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I'm talking insidious style. It's all very interesting but I'm a bit skeptical of course. If the entities take over, do you become a different person?


To answer your question...no...but have felt a strong push and pull outside myself that my consciousness told me were higher beings fighting for & against me.

Edit: tmi
This post was edited on 3/23/16 at 8:40 am
Posted by Huey Lewis
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Posted on 3/23/16 at 4:47 am to
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I'm talking insidious style. It's all very interesting but I'm a bit skeptical of course. If the entities take over, do you become a different person?



To answer your question, YES. I actually took over the body I'm living in now. You need to be really careful out there, that's all I can say about it. Probably I've said too much already.
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