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re: Pfizer CEO: “Two doses of the vaccine offers very limited protection, if any

Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:15 am to
Posted by Bullfrog
Institutionalized but Unevaluated
Member since Jul 2010
56452 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:15 am to
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ATLANTA (KMOX) -- CDC Director Rochelle Walensky said that Covid-19 vaccines are no longer effective at preventing transmission of the virus. The director for the CDC publicly acknowledged in a CNN interview that the COVID-19 vaccine is not effective at preventing transmission of the virus.

CDC Director: Covid vaccines can't prevent transmission anymore
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95965 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:15 am to
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I've made it clear from the beginning that I believe the vaccines work, that mandates are totally inappropriate, and that politicians are dumb. None of those things have changed.

We also should've taken Fauci's mic away years ago.


Bingo

Some people are extremely tribal today. You have to go “all in” on something.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30852 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:16 am to
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Are you familiar with the development of any other vaccine primary program? How did we decide that certain vaccines need a 5-dose series? Again, you are beholden to that initial advertising, and not any notion of how a primary program is developed.




Good luck
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167551 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:16 am to
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You're not going to catch me defending Biden



Just pointing out that Roger is not wrong in his statement that it was sold to the public as 100% protection.

When you have idiots, like Whoopi, who are shocked when they still get CV19 that only proves that they truly thought the vaccine was the end all be all for them and gave them100% immunity which is why they believe in it so religiously. That's because that is the messaging that was originally pushed.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39618 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:17 am to
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And now you have better odds of hitting your number on the craps table than having vaccine protection from any variant of CV19


What's weird is I've seen you notate the difference between infection and severe illness vaccine protection in other threads but vast majority of the time you purposely avoid the distinction. Why is that?
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 9:19 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261827 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:17 am to
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How did we decide that certain vaccines need a 5-dose series?


Probably not by lying.

I blame politicians, not scientists. Now, they're trying to scare parents with small children.

Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:17 am to
When the federal government has granted your company blanket immunity from liability of taking your product, and even mandated its use, you can do or say pretty much anything.

We need to bring back public hangings.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:18 am to
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Good luck


With what? Educating people who barely have any grasp of the history of infectious disease?
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32790 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:18 am to
It's crazy how many people who don't see this as a money making scheme.

I'm not even saying that the vaccine is 100% worthless, it's just that the way it's being pushed (to kids, and other populations that aren't really at risk, boosters, etc...) is obviously driven by money.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95965 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:18 am to
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Now, they're trying to scare parents with small children.
Now?

They starting pedaling the MIS-C bullshite in May of 2020
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261827 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:19 am to
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I've made it clear from the beginning that I believe the vaccines work


You were wrong then. The vaccines were billed as something that blocks transmission.
Posted by OU812ME2
Earth
Member since Jun 2021
832 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:20 am to
Hold on while I look up some study that was paid for by the govt and pharmaceutical company to sell more vaccines.

All the unvaccinated know it's complete bunk because the reality is that early treatment means much more than a 'vaccine'. They should have been giving everyone who tests positive 4 HCQ pills and whatever their dose of Ivermectin instead of sending them home with NOTHING except the advice that if they can't breathe then go to the hospital.

Now we're learning the truth that we've always seen. All this was done to enrich a certain group of people and create a permanent change in our culture and economy. But keep on believing those govt studies that pay researchers for the 'correct' outcome. Basically what they did with global warming.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:20 am to
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Probably not by lying.



Yeah I agree, and I've criticized the instutuonal response numerous times. I was privy to some conversations last summer which convinced me that we had dinosaurs in terms of the appropriate messaging.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261827 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:20 am to
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Educating people who barely have any grasp of the history of infectious disease?


Your vaccine does not prevent infection. I'm not protecting else anyone by getting vaccinated.



This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 9:21 am
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:22 am to
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Your vaccine does not prevent infection.


What was the breakthrough infection rate for the smallpox vaccine? Do you understand why diseases with multiple routes, but are primarily respiratory droplets, can evade initial mucosal IgA immunity?
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39618 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:22 am to
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They starting pedaling the MIS-C bull shite in May of 2020



Oh ya, around that they reported the first 20 or so kid deaths without mentioning how truly sick those kids were before COVID.

One of the most illuminating things I've learned in this pandemic came from a NYT poll of epidemiologists. In that poll it was revealed how risk averse they are in general. The profession attracts people who don't measure risk like the general population. And they are in the driver seat.
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 9:23 am
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48331 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:23 am to
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Just pointing out that Roger is not wrong in his statement that it was sold to the public as 100% protection.


Correct. But when you say this to many of the pro-mandate crowd they swear up and down that it did not happen.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95965 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:23 am to
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Yeah I agree, and I've criticized the instutuonal response numerous times. I was privy to some conversations last summer which convinced me that we had dinosaurs in terms of the appropriate messaging.


I lost monumental respect from the medical field for not having the courage to speak against the Dr. O’Neal’s and Avegnos of them world
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261827 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:24 am to
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Your vaccine does not prevent infection.
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What was the breakthrough infection rate for the smallpox vaccine?


You're missing the point entirely. It was billed as something to prevent the virus, which never was the case.

"Keep you and me safe" was the slogan, and it was wrong.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18339 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:24 am to
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You were wrong then. The vaccines were billed as something that blocks transmission.


I've posted evidence that they did. Sorry you're retarded.
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