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re: People from our past we still hold in awe today

Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:16 am to
Posted by John Wayne
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:16 am to
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Google is your friend. This is one of many.


How'd I know you were basing your opinion off of some BS, unfounded claims from Hitchens which has since been regurgitated as gospel (pun intended) claimed to be "new studies", etc.

All of these claims are coming from people who are ideologically opposed to the Church and Christianity. I find that rather convenient.
Posted by dnm3305
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:20 am to
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All of these claims are coming from people who are ideologically opposed to the Church and Christianity. I find that rather convenient.


So you mean people that dont blindly succumb to whatever shite sandwich the church feeds them?
Posted by dnm3305
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:21 am to
Hitler
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:21 am to
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This is a venerable human


You call Mother Teresa a fraud on the one hand and yet you admire a man that almost certainly gained the presidency through voter fraud.

LINK

LINK
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:21 am to
Not all Christians blindly follow what they're told.
Posted by The Third Leg
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:22 am to
Univ of Montreal
"Canadian academics trawled through 96 per cent of all originally researched literature on the Catholic icon and concluded that her reputation as one of the holiest women of the twentieth century was the product of hype.

Researchers allege missing funds for humanitarian work and homes for the poor that did not offer the medical care they required, leaving many to die."
Posted by The Third Leg
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:27 am to
Politics is a game of rampant fraud, there is no honesty and there cannot be such.

JFK was the pinnacle of American liberalism and he died for it. He actually gave a frick about the whole of society, and even at that point in time, when public opinion was shifting, our government was still committed to mass atrocities in places like Latin America.

Who is the better Catholic, JFK or MT? JFK.

If dumb asses are going to post Reagan images, JFK gets the fifty yard line seats.
Posted by tigerpawl
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:28 am to
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So you mean people that dont blindly succumb to whatever shite sandwich the church feeds them?
In a manner of speaking, that's correct. That's precisely the point. You're either with them or you're not. There's no cafeteria here. Isn't that the entire point of membership? Do you bicker with American Express or Google when they change their terms and conditions? The answer is a "NO", because you trust their guidance and you're committed for the long haul. Admit it: you just click the "Accept" button and trust that you're in the right place.

They don't call it "The Rock" for nothing.
This post was edited on 6/5/14 at 10:29 am
Posted by John Wayne
Baton Rouge, La
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:29 am to
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So you mean people that dont blindly succumb to whatever shite sandwich the church feeds them?


Funny you mention that. People will surely gobble up said "shite sandwich" when it's fed to them by someone that holds their same views especially when they feel it will substantiate those views.

Hitchens made his living as a controversialist. He even admitted that. He was good at it. However, I doubt seriously that he or anyone else making these claims had access any substantial proof to back up these claims.
Posted by Diddles
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:31 am to
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:35 am to
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Univ of Montreal
"Canadian academics trawled through 96 per cent of all originally researched literature on the Catholic icon and concluded that her reputation as one of the holiest women of the twentieth century was the product of hype.

Researchers allege missing funds for humanitarian work and homes for the poor that did not offer the medical care they required, leaving many to die."


I clicked on the "about" tab in the link you gave. Here's the first thing it said....

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Signs of the Times, or SOTT.net, was launched on March 26, 2002 by Laura Knight-Jadczyk.

A historian and author of repute in her own right, Laura Knight-Jadczyk is the wife of renowned theoretical physicist, Arkadiusz Jadczyk, one of the world's few living experts in hyperdimensional physics.


So I wondered, who is this Laura Knight-Jadczyk person? So I dod a little searching....

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Laura Knight Jadczyk (hereafter referred to as LKJ) is a batshit insane blogger and crank, who calls herself a "scientific mystic and PaleoChristian Shaman". She is primarily notable for her role in purveying Comet Elenin and Planet X/Nibiru woo, but she is also into free energy,[1] Mossad conspiracies,[2] the 9/11 truth movement,[3] the Denver Airport conspiracy theory,[4] the New World Order,[5], Earth changes,[6] , and alien abduction, and HAARP,[7]. It seems LKJ never met a piece of pseudoscience she didn't like, and she's a left-wing crank and moonbat par excellence. She's Gene Ray with slightly better writing skills.


LINK

And here's another of her websites...

This Woman is indeed batshit crazy.
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:35 am to
So JFK can be a fraud but MT can't?

Not that I care either way, but that doesn't seem right.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:36 am to
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So you mean people that dont blindly succumb to whatever shite sandwich the church feeds them?
Since I am usualy unable to properly respond to such mish-mash by my own devices, I like to borrow from someone who seems to make a far better point than I can... in this case from my old pal, C.S. Lewis:

A veteran devil's advice to an apprentice devil: "Man has been accustomed, ever since he was a boy, to having a dozen incompatible philosophies dancing about together inside his head. He doesn't think of doctrines as primarily "true" or "false," but as "academic" or "practical," "outworn" or "contemporary," "conventional" or "ruthless." Jargon, not argument, is your best ally in keeping him from the Church. Don't waste time trying to make him think that materialism is true! Make him think it is strong or stark or courageous—that it is the philosophy of the future. That's the sort of thing he cares about.”
Posted by CharlesLSU
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:37 am to
Eric Andolsek
Posted by The Third Leg
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:37 am to
Of course, it's a quip she posted citing Montreal's research.

The University of Montreal is the entity that combed through her past.

LINK
This post was edited on 6/5/14 at 10:40 am
Posted by The Third Leg
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:38 am to
All politicians are frauds. All of them.

If we hold Mother Teresa to their standard, why the frick do we even care about religion, whatsoever?
Posted by John Wayne
Baton Rouge, La
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:39 am to
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in this case from my old pal, C.S. Lewis


More specifically, Screwtape.
Posted by RedRifle
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:40 am to
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:53 am to
Many people think all clergymen and women are frauds as well.
Posted by Slingscode
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:52 am to
My Grandfather. Merchant Marine captain. Had two ships torpedoed from underneath him in WW II and survived. Greatest man I ever knew.
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