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Posted on 1/8/15 at 9:49 am to Drury01
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I also agree with those that criticize me for putting info on a public Internet forum. It's pretty pathetic that some people don't have friends or family to confide in and try to get hope that some wayward children turn things around and eventually reconcile with their parents.
This makes me sad. Just hang in there man.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 9:50 am to CaptainsWafer
Wafer, posed a question to you in the insurance thread yesterday. Kinda long. If you get a chance, will you look at it and tell me what you think? Tia.
**** End Hijack
**** End Hijack
Posted on 1/8/15 at 9:50 am to Osiris
quote:This is a myopic viewpoint. It's much easier to judge when you were born with all the advantages and intelligence and good parents.
In that case, you should be pro-killing-uneducated-parents too. A baby shouldn't be deprived of life because their parents were raised in a shite society created by people like you.
Fact is, most aborted babies are thankful.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 9:52 am to Festus
I answered a little later, but the thread was anchored already. Go take a look see.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 9:52 am to CaptainsWafer
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Absolutely, although I got the feeling he was viewing it negatively, like the drug problem.
Given this line, I certainly took it as yet another thing he felt was an issue...not some struggle he felt bad that she needed to overcome.
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I know that this is a downer first post, but I'm just wondering if other parents have kids who have turned away from them and their values and later turned their lives around and reconciled. Just looking for a spark of hope that things might change.
I'm going to assume most of us don't have "values" that are about the positives of drug abuse, so I took this as a reference to his displeasure with her sexual orientation.
I have an older sister that was an addict from the time she was a teen...and trust me, her being straight did nothing to help her situation. In fact, it would have likely been a blessing given she was pregnant at 14. Believe me, of all the problems she brought onto herself and my family, who she slept was pretty fricking far down the list of shite that mattered...
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We adopted her at birth. I mentioned the lesbian part because one of her issues is getting involved with other girls with similar issues and when the relationship sours, she relapses or self-harms. In hindsight, I see how that comes across as homophobic since I realize that if the relationships were with screwed up boys, it would end up the same way. My experience has just been with her and girls, so that's why I mentioned it. Her being a lesbian is the least of our family issues.
Yes...it would be no different. So long as her behavior is like this, she'll find like-minded individuals to hang with. It would be no better, and trust me...could be FAR WORSE, if she was sleeping with tons of guys.
This post was edited on 1/8/15 at 9:55 am
Posted on 1/8/15 at 9:52 am to Drury01
My older brother was the prodigal child. My parents wore themselves out emotionally and financially trying to support him. He barely avoided prison at age 21 and got slapped with probation instead. Got married, had a child, then got divorced, then got another girl pregnant. The whole time my parents are trying to help him and support him from a different state, and have a relationship with him. We knew he was dealing with depression but we didn't try to force ourselves on him. I believe the counselor about the emotional bonding thing, I feel my brother also never emotionally bonded with my parents.
Eventually he fell out with any good friend he had left, was smoking pot all the time. He robbed his employer and ran away. About a month later he committed suicide.
I'm certainly not saying you are wrong for drawing the line. I will say my parents are going to wonder what else they could have done for the rest of their lives. I know I will always feel like I should have reached out. At the end of the day, she has to want to change. My brother wasn't the type to reach out to anyone so he was carried away by his depression. I will say that I don't think he was on hard drugs at any point.
Don't know if any of this helps, but I have been in a similar situation. It hurt me seeing my parents do all they could for him, yet him still refusing to be responsible, and now it hurts knowing how they'll be thinking they could have done more.
Eventually he fell out with any good friend he had left, was smoking pot all the time. He robbed his employer and ran away. About a month later he committed suicide.
I'm certainly not saying you are wrong for drawing the line. I will say my parents are going to wonder what else they could have done for the rest of their lives. I know I will always feel like I should have reached out. At the end of the day, she has to want to change. My brother wasn't the type to reach out to anyone so he was carried away by his depression. I will say that I don't think he was on hard drugs at any point.
Don't know if any of this helps, but I have been in a similar situation. It hurt me seeing my parents do all they could for him, yet him still refusing to be responsible, and now it hurts knowing how they'll be thinking they could have done more.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 9:52 am to genro
quote:Fact is, all aborted babies aren't given a chance to be thankful.
Fact is, most aborted babies are thankful.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 9:53 am to Drury01
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It's pretty pathetic that some people don't have friends or family to confide in and try to get hope that some wayward children turn things around and eventually reconcile with their parents.
Dude if you want real life support then I'd suggest finding an Al-Anon meeting in your area. They're actually easy to find and can do you some real good.
On the other hand, if you want to seek advice on the internet, I'd suggest trying cocaine. You seem a bit older and wiser so I'm sure you can handle it. And you seem like you have some disposable income. Cocaine is definitely the drug you should try in order to bridge this emotional gap between you and your estranged daughter.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 9:53 am to Osiris
Let's all be thankful for that
Posted on 1/8/15 at 9:54 am to CaptainsWafer
I don't have any children but I have friends with similar problems. I agree, they aren't going to get better until they want to. Some people need to hit rock bottom before they want to get better. There's nothing friends or family can do about it.
This post was edited on 1/8/15 at 9:55 am
Posted on 1/8/15 at 9:56 am to Team Vote
sorry about your brother man. I think your parents did everything they could. when people are adults they are responsible for their lives. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink if they don't want to.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 9:57 am to GeauxTigerTM
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I know that this is a downer first post, but I'm just wondering if other parents have kids who have turned away from them and their values and later turned their lives around and reconciled. Just looking for a spark of hope that things might change.
I'm going to assume most of us don't have "values" that are about the positives of drug abuse, so I took this as a reference to his displeasure with her sexual orientation.
That's what he is saying, btw. Not commenting on your tangent crusade, just pointing out you misunderstood what you read.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 9:59 am to Tiger Ryno
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sorry about your brother man. I think your parents did everything they could. when people are adults they are responsible for their lives. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink if they don't want to.
Thanks. I really feel for families that go through stuff like this. And my parents do know that he made his own choices, but when it's someone you love so dearly, it's a natural human reaction to feel like you could have done more. Me and my other brothers are sure to remind them often that they are wonderful parents.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 9:59 am to Drury01
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We adopted her at birth.
Dude. She has been your daughter since before she had memories?
Posted on 1/8/15 at 10:00 am to GRTiger
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Not commenting on your tangent crusade
Not a crusade and until he/she addressed it it was clearly an unusual thing to include in a post about drug abuse.
Did you not see the OP address it later, and I edit my post to include the new info?
Posted on 1/8/15 at 10:05 am to Drury01
i was a bad motherfricker growing up. Always doing stupid stuff,getting arrested,stealing,drinking,smoking. I never got into drugs and honestly am surprised by that.
My folks did all they could for me growing up but i had something in me,some spite for my Mom taking away from my biological fathers family. Now,my Biological father was a huge fricked in the head,Vietnam war vet who i'm very lucky i wasn't raised by but his family,the only people i knew growing up from an infant,my favorite Aunt,My little cousins,My Me-Maw and Pa-Poo who i had grown to love was taken from me from the age 5.
I never forgave my Mom and Stepdad for that and acted out the only way i knew how.
Only thing that finally broke me from my ways was doing 2 1/2 years straight in jail.
After that i turned my life around and feel some normalcy now.
You aren't going to do anything to change your fricked in the head kids. They must live the hard life and if they're lucky enough to survive that time in their life then maybe,at they'll change their ways.
My folks did all they could for me growing up but i had something in me,some spite for my Mom taking away from my biological fathers family. Now,my Biological father was a huge fricked in the head,Vietnam war vet who i'm very lucky i wasn't raised by but his family,the only people i knew growing up from an infant,my favorite Aunt,My little cousins,My Me-Maw and Pa-Poo who i had grown to love was taken from me from the age 5.
I never forgave my Mom and Stepdad for that and acted out the only way i knew how.
Only thing that finally broke me from my ways was doing 2 1/2 years straight in jail.
After that i turned my life around and feel some normalcy now.
You aren't going to do anything to change your fricked in the head kids. They must live the hard life and if they're lucky enough to survive that time in their life then maybe,at they'll change their ways.
This post was edited on 1/8/15 at 10:06 am
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