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Overdosing on Immodium AD is a thing now

Posted on 5/4/16 at 6:53 am
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 6:53 am
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The over-the-counter anti-diarrhea medication Imodium®, or its key ingredient loperamide, is increasingly being abused by people attempting to self-treat their opioid addiction, with sometime fatal results. Two case studies outlining the phenomenon were published online in Annals of Emergency Medicine.

"Loperamide's accessibility, low cost, over-the-counter legal status and lack of social stigma all contribute to its potential for abuse," said lead study author William Eggleston, PharmD, of the Upstate New York Poison Center, in Syracuse, New York. "People looking for either self-treatment of withdrawal symptoms or euphoria are overdosing on loperamide with sometimes deadly consequences. Loperamide is safe in therapeutic doses but extremely dangerous in high doses."

The paper outlines two case studies of patients with histories of substance abuse who attempted to self-treat opioid addictions with massive doses of loperamide. Both patients overdosed and emergency medical services were called. The patients were treated with cardiopulmonary resuscitation, naloxone and standard Advanced Cardiac Life Support. Both patients died.
Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
The Great State of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 6:59 am to
Solid societal problem.
Posted by learnthehardway
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 7:08 am to
Kratom is a better option
Posted by Pectus
Internet
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 7:09 am to
No social stigma?

Immodium AD definitely has a stigma about it.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 7:13 am to
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The patients were treated with cardiopulmonary resuscitation, naloxone and standard Advanced Cardiac Life Support. Both patients died.
only reason they would be given naloxone is for opiate overdose.

Don't know if his article is being a little disingenuous.
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 7:14 am to
Kratom is legit.

Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 7:17 am to
Loperamide at very high doses produces opiate-like toxicity. Some studies have shown naloxone could have a beneficial effect in these patients.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 7:18 am to
The more you know
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59675 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 7:42 am to
So they aren't dying from an overdose of poop in system
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 7:46 am to
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So they aren't dying from an overdose of poop in system


Opioids + Immodium = extreme blockage. Sounds fricking terrible
Posted by DaTroof
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2015
977 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 7:47 am to
Two people died. Two.
Posted by Elephino
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 8:16 am to
It produces opiate-like toxicity because it targets mu opioid receptors. Structurally, it is a combination of meperidine and methadone. It is generally considered to not have CNS activity because it poor dissolution, roughly 40% bioavailability, and is a strong substrate for efflux (gets pumped out as quickly as it gets in). There have been studies performed that show nanoparticles packed with loperamide and coated with polysorbate 80 can sneak into the CNS and cause the typical opioid effects.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
38536 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 8:20 am to
The King approves.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 8:23 am to
Even when I've got the worst "stomach virus" ever and am getting dehydrated, I go as long as I can before taking Immodium AD. The resulting stomach pain from not being able to shite properly for the next week is not worth it. I couldn't imagine willingly taking remotely enough to overdose.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 8:26 am to
I know people it worked for to get off dope.

The people who died were taking like 200+ pills a day for long periods of time and went in to cardiac arrest I think. I read a story where some person kept going in to cardiac arrest while they were still awake and would get the AED shock thing done to them while still conscious multiple times, sounds pretty terrible.

The people I know started at like 20 and then tapered it down over a period of like 3 - 4 weeks.
This post was edited on 5/4/16 at 8:30 am
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
20044 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 8:27 am to
Impacted assholes.....
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
22026 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 8:32 am to
Immodium AD got me through tailgating and the LSU/Auburn game in 2007. It has my respect.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 8:40 am to
How does Immodium help with opioid dependency?
Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
1945 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 8:45 am to
Kratom is a plain leaf that can be used for pain, anxiety, depression and opiate withdrawal. you can not overdose, and it only has a small effect no mater how much you take. but it is close to being made illegal in some states like Alabama. Louisiana has passed a bill for 18 plus. One of Alabamas' arguments is that "people were using this to replace their heroin" like it was a bad thing.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 8:49 am to
quote:

Kratom is a plain leaf that can be used for pain, anxiety, depression and opiate withdrawal. you can not overdose, and it only has a small effect no mater how much you take. but it is close to being made illegal in some states like Alabama. Louisiana has passed a bill for 18 plus. One of Alabamas' arguments is that "people were using this to replace their heroin" like it was a bad thing.

We need a basic IQ/reasoning skills screening test for all politicians.
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