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re: OT, why do ya'll care more about dogs than humans?
Posted on 3/18/15 at 1:40 pm to Sun God
Posted on 3/18/15 at 1:40 pm to Sun God
Did you know that 100% of Nazis were humans? 0% dogs.
I think the real question is: Why do you love Nazis so much?
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OT, why do ya'll care more about dogs than humans?
I think the real question is: Why do you love Nazis so much?
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Posted on 3/18/15 at 1:46 pm to Sun God
If you are cool to a dog it will be loyal to you forever, the same can not be said about humans.
Posted on 3/18/15 at 1:55 pm to Sun God
I am a huge dog person. I've been around dogs my entire life, and am in the process of obtaining my first pup.
That being said, the best dog on the planet is still a step below most human beings.
I will make exceptions for murders, rapists, and pedophiles though.
That being said, the best dog on the planet is still a step below most human beings.
I will make exceptions for murders, rapists, and pedophiles though.
Posted on 3/18/15 at 2:42 pm to Jake88
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My dog doesn't bitch or complain. That's why.
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Those are the qualities those posters want most in another person but attribute them to a dog who can't act in those ways because it's a dog.
You just blew my mind.
Posted on 3/18/15 at 4:31 pm to panterica
I had three dogs all loved more than 12 years and were wonderful pets. But those abilities you think you see regarding honesty, lack of complaining, loyalty in a human sense and love in a human sense don't actually exist.
Posted on 3/18/15 at 5:00 pm to Jake88
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loyalty in a human sense and love in a human sense don't actually exist.
Yeah. They actually do. And dogs are as good at understanding language as two year old humans. Some better than others of course. My dog knows sign language, a couple pages worth of words and phrases, and has more pure compassion than most humans can ever achieve. I'm sure OT posts won't change your mind, but if you search, you'll find studies backing up everything I'm claiming. This whole "humans are above all other creatures in every way" idea is outdated and only being kept alive in churches. I'm not bashing church, but it's wrong.
Posted on 3/18/15 at 5:01 pm to Sun God
Dogs are much less likely to kill me.
Posted on 3/18/15 at 5:07 pm to Sun God
Why is this even a topic. Your IP address needs to be banned as well as any other handles you have.
Although dogs are descendants of the wolf they have been domesticated for hundreds to thousands of years. Dogs being shitty as you call it is the result of their environment with humans.
I'd hate to see you as a k9 handler in the military or a service dog trainer or animal rescue
Although dogs are descendants of the wolf they have been domesticated for hundreds to thousands of years. Dogs being shitty as you call it is the result of their environment with humans.
I'd hate to see you as a k9 handler in the military or a service dog trainer or animal rescue
Posted on 3/18/15 at 5:23 pm to panterica
Dogs are "loyal" and "love" their owners because they don't know there is a choice. Again, it's not loyalty and love in the human sense. That sensation they have to behave that way is bred into them. They can't behave any other way.
Please explain compassion in a dog.
Please explain compassion in a dog.
Posted on 3/18/15 at 5:27 pm to Sun God
quote:I haven't
I've met just as many shitty dogs as shitty humans
I've been bitten far more times by people (metaphorically) than dogs
Posted on 3/18/15 at 5:54 pm to Jake88
'Compassion is the emotion that one feels in response to the suffering of others that motivates a desire to help.'
You've never heard a dog cry because its owner cried? Never read stories of dogs risking and/or giving their lives to save humans or other animals? They will go through pain and suffering to make sure the ones they love don't suffer. A mother with a child in danger will do the same thing, and not for a second will she have to process a 'choice' about it. It is just in their nature as it is in ours. I would argue that is more special and more sincere than someone spending any amount of time making a 'choice' about compassion.
I've never had a dog that didn't display compassion. And it's not human influence that causes it. Wild animals do the same. They don't need to be trained or domesticated, though they do become more sensitive and enlightened in a sense by being more keen to how we domesticated creatures do things. Just as any human would be wild vs domesticated.
You've never heard a dog cry because its owner cried? Never read stories of dogs risking and/or giving their lives to save humans or other animals? They will go through pain and suffering to make sure the ones they love don't suffer. A mother with a child in danger will do the same thing, and not for a second will she have to process a 'choice' about it. It is just in their nature as it is in ours. I would argue that is more special and more sincere than someone spending any amount of time making a 'choice' about compassion.
I've never had a dog that didn't display compassion. And it's not human influence that causes it. Wild animals do the same. They don't need to be trained or domesticated, though they do become more sensitive and enlightened in a sense by being more keen to how we domesticated creatures do things. Just as any human would be wild vs domesticated.
Posted on 3/18/15 at 6:02 pm to Sun God
They say dogs are the only species that would rather be with a human than their own kind. They are loyal and loving unconditionally which is hard to find in humans, except maybe a mother for a child. The internet has countless stories of dogs going to a church to lay at the altar after the death of an owner, saving lives of owners and remembering owners after years. I could't imagine life without my dogs. Doesn't mean I don't like humans-dogs are just more dependable most of the time.
Posted on 3/18/15 at 6:23 pm to panterica
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Never read stories of dogs risking and/or giving their lives to save humans or other animals? They will go through pain and suffering to make sure the ones they love don't suffer.
That's not compassion. Dogs are pack animals that are genetically programmed to behave in that way. They know nothing else. They are not "choosing."
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I would argue that is more special and more sincere than someone spending any amount of time making a 'choice' about compassion.
Completely wrong. It's not that special if they are genetically programmed to behave that way and can't do otherwise. Someone who has a choice to avoid danger but knowingly places themselves in harm's way to help another is a vastly more commendable choice.
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