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re: Only one contractor bids to remove New Orleans' confederate monuments, wants $600,000
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:52 pm to Upperdecker
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:52 pm to Upperdecker
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:53 pm to baldona
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I'd think you could do it for an easy $20,000
I love when people with zero knowledge just pull a random number out of their arse.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:54 pm to Dizz
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It sounds like they are just removing the statues and not the bases as well. This is going to look terrible with just the bases sitting there with nothing on top.
I don't think so. IIRC, when I read the bid it laid out the construction of each statue and the bases. They required the bases be removed as well. Since the bases are anchored down into the earth it sure they can actually remove them without damaging them.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:54 pm to WPBTiger
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Only one bidder has submitted a proposal to take down three Confederate monuments in New Orleans and is asking more than three times the amount the city has budgeted for the project.
Welp.
Looks like General Lee ain't going anywhere for the time being.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:54 pm to LNCHBOX
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I love when people with zero knowledge just pull a random number out of their arse.
Yes, the permits and street closure fees alone for this job will be 20k.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:55 pm to baldona
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I'd think you could do it for an easy $20,000 the rest is profit$$$.
You couldn't rent the crane to remove the statues for $20k
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:55 pm to Godfather1
How much to remove each one individually?
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:55 pm to northshorebamaman
Not sure but I know that overthrowing a dictatorship is more than 600k
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:55 pm to NYCAuburn
quote:They just complain, they don't pay for shite. Either this will happen via federal grant or it wont happen.
You would think there was a black owned company that would have a lower bid
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:55 pm to baldona
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Why would the city say they budgeting 1/3 of the only bid? I mean now some jackwagon that was going to bid $100,000 knows the city is more than happy to pay $200,000.
That's not how public bids work. They announce the date bids will be opened and the contractors submit sealed bids. On the announced date and time, they open all of the bids in public and the lowest bid that meets the project requirements is awarded the contract. It's a done deal. If the city wants the statues gone, they're going to pay $600k for it. If they want to try to wiggle out and take another bite at the apple and get lower bids even though they have a valid and technically adequate low bid, they'd be opening themselves up to a massive lawsuit from the holder of the current winning bid and possibly criminal action against the officials involved.
Public bids are serious business.
This post was edited on 4/4/17 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:55 pm to TigerstuckinMS
shite...you're right.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:56 pm to kingbob
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It memorializes the people killed when a paramilitary group of disenfranchized former confederates overthrew the reconstruction government before federal troops were deployed to put down the insurrection. It's actually an incredibly fascinating historical event that has been completely omitted from state history classes and is largely unknown.
Lots of interesting points
-while the militia from the White League was composed of mostly Confederate vets, they were opposed by the metropolitan police and the state militia, commanded by former Confederate General Longstreet. There's a couple of anecdotes about how the white league sharpshooters killed his horse rather than him "with great difficulty" IIRC.
-Canal Street streetcars were used as barracades, with manhole covers placed on the side as armor
-The battle was initiated because both the Republican and Democratic governments claimed victory in the recent election. This whole thing is what happens when the "torches and pitch fork come out".
-No one was ever charged or convicted for the resulting blood shed. By some figures there were 8000 total involved, 3000 by the metropolitan police and 5000 white league
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:57 pm to tgrbaitn08
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You couldn't rent the crane to remove the statues for $20k
Not just that but you'll have to find a crane company from out of state since almost all of them within a 150 mile radius have said their equipment will not be used for the monument removal.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:57 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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If they want to try to wiggle out and take another bite at the apple and get lower bids, they're opening themselves up to a massive lawsuit from the current winning bid, assuming it was technically adequate.
The city will have no trouble at all getting out of a single bidder result that was triple the budget. Massive lawsuit
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:59 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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That's not how public bids work. They announce the date bids will be opened and the contractors submit sealed bids. On the announced date and time, they open all of the bids in public and the lowest bid that meets the project requirements is awarded the contract. It's a done deal. If the city wants the statues gone, they're going to pay $600k for it. If they want to try to wiggle out and take another bite at the apple and get lower bids even though they have a valid and technically adequate low bid, they'd be opening themselves up to a massive lawsuit from the holder of the current winning bid and possibly criminal action against the officials involved.
Public bids are serious business.
Yes I know that was my point. The article did not make any sense though, it made it seem they were waiting on more bids.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 3:00 pm to LNCHBOX
Run along, you contrarian piece of shite. Adults are talking.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 3:01 pm to LNCHBOX
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I love when people with zero knowledge just pull a random number out of their arse.
I love when people assume someone else has no idea because they don't either.
No I don't, but I know I've rented a crane to put an AC system on the top of a 4 story building and it was like a $1,200 job. I can't even tell how high or big those statues are, I have no idea.
But I do know, that a city like NO has people that probably do crane work full time and something like this is not that expensive when you are local.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 3:01 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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That's not how public bids work. They announce the date bids will be opened and the contractors submit sealed bids. On the announced date and time, they open all of the bids in public and the lowest bid that meets the project requirements is awarded the contract. It's a done deal. If the city wants the statues gone, they're going to pay $600k for it. If they want to try to wiggle out and take another bite at the apple and get lower bids even though they have a valid and technically adequate low bid, they'd be opening themselves up to a massive lawsuit from the holder of the current winning bid and possibly criminal action against the officials involved.
Public bids are serious business.
All the city has to do is say that the bids came in over budget (factual statement) and cancel the bid due to insufficient funds.
They don't have to award a contract that's over the requisitioned funds available just because it was low.
They can then put it out to bid again if they want, hoping for more competition and more competitive bids... or they can adjust it to put one statue out to bid with alternates for the others if they want.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 3:01 pm to baldona
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The article did not make any sense though, it made it seem they were waiting on more bids.
Ahh. Gotcha. Then, yeah, if bids are still incoming, that's a pretty serious breach of the rules surrounding public bids. Some bidders would have more information than others.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 3:01 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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Run along, you contrarian piece of shite. Adults are talking.
It's no contrarian. They aren't bound to use that bid just because they were the only responsive bidder. You don't know what you're talking about.
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