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re: Official Thread: Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

Posted on 3/21/14 at 7:21 am to
Posted by pensacola
pensacola
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 3/21/14 at 7:21 am to
Perhaps we should at least be able to access our low earth orbit trailer?
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65055 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 7:34 am to
So they believe this piece of debris sank? What a coincidence. A huge chunk of what is supposedly Flight 370 floats along in the middle of a very volatile section of the ocean for 13 days. We pick it up on satellite and go looking for it, only to find out it had conveniently sunk on the 14th day.

Yeah...

This post was edited on 3/21/14 at 7:35 am
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30247 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 7:55 am to
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Watching a replay of Megyn Kelly's show now...


She's so damn fine...
Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
13256 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 8:12 am to
The crews didn't find any debris today but they apparently did find Tom Hanks floating on a crudely-built raft.

So there's that.
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
8488 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 8:13 am to
And this is a interesting theory that I have not heard before.



Authorities are investigating whether a bomb was concealed in a crate of mangosteen fruit

The seemingly harmless cargo was ordered by companies in China
'Three to four tons' of mangosteens were on the aircraft

Experts say a triggering device could have easily been hidden inside
a passenger's mobile phone

Could a small BOMB have been hidden inside one of the crates of fruit stacked in the cargo hold


Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 8:28 am to
quote:

Napoleon


I have been looking at a flight school in Baton Rouge for $8000 & I was shocked that one only needs a minimum of 30 flight hours to obtain a Private License? (average is 50-60 hours to obtain license).

Is $8000 reasonable or can one do better?


Instrument rating is $7000 & my laymen understanding is that without Instrument rating one cannot fly at night/low visibility/adverse weather?(JFK Jr wasn't instrument rated & it cost him).


$100-150 per hour is fairly expensive for 'no particular place to go' , but being an owner it would be cool to fly into Tallahassee/College Station/etc......for a ball game or other short trip.

$25 /per month parking sounds unusually low & I would have assumed it cost more. Joint ownership can be a pain if your partner is a deadbeat(balks on helping with maintenance etc......)

Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69071 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 8:31 am to
$25 a month is for parking on a grass field in AMA.

$8k is less than what i paid, so that's good.

It may take more hours than 30 depending on the type of school you attend and how long it takes you.

You can fly VFR at night, you need IFR to fly into clouds or weather.

Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155532 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 8:33 am to
all right, good morning
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 8:39 am to
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sugar71

You've just outted yourself as the flight 370 hijacker. It's apparent that you made the original pilot fly to LA where hiding a 777 is easy. NSA/FBI/CIA and the girl scouts are on the away to your location as we speak.
This post was edited on 3/21/14 at 8:40 am
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80121 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 8:43 am to
quote:

Authorities are investigating whether a bomb was concealed in a crate of mangosteen fruit


No fricking way... If a bomb would have went off, there would have been a massive debris field.

Secondly, it doesn't explain the systematic shutdown of communications.
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 8:44 am to
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Just a little more information on the protocol required to effectively disable ACARS...


I just saw an aviation 'expert' on CNN "New Day" who claims that ACARS can simply be turned off through computer interface. I will try to find a link to someone who agrees that acars can be turned off on the computer/ in the cockpit.


But I must admit that even if the Pilot somehow became disoriented & turned off his transponder it is just unimaginable that he would be so unlucky to accidentally turn off ACARS as well.


Maybe not a complete mechanical breakdown but some electronic malfunction?
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69071 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 8:45 am to
Lots of H3 on the moon, maybe start getting that for fuel in future. Idk.
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 8:57 am to
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No fricking way... If a bomb would have went off, there would have been a massive debris field.

Secondly, it doesn't explain the systematic shutdown of communications.


This .Plus the US claims to have satellites that monitors the globe & would detect any explosions.

No explosions detected the morning of the disappearance.


Unless all of the data about the system shut downs, & engine 'pings' for hours , is incorrect the bomb theory is not feasible.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80121 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 9:00 am to
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Unless all of the data about the system shut downs, & engine 'pings' for hours , is incorrect the bomb theory is not feasible.


Who knows... Either way, I think there will be major changes to aircraft due to this incident.

It needs to be made impossible for someone to be able to turn off all tracking.
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
16455 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 9:01 am to
quote:

So they believe this piece of debris sank? What a coincidence. A huge chunk of what is supposedly Flight 370 floats along in the middle of a very volatile section of the ocean for 13 days. We pick it up on satellite and go looking for it, only to find out it had conveniently sunk on the 14th day.


The satellite image of the debris was several days old before the "debris" was found on it. So your timeline isn't accurate.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78028 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 9:48 am to
quote:


It needs to be made impossible for someone to be able to turn off all tracking.


NO shite! according to vader, this is a 264 MILLION DOLLAR airplane.

i sure as hell wouldn't write a check for one of these without some guarantees it couldn't accidently get lost.

Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80121 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 9:55 am to
quote:

i sure as hell wouldn't write a check for one of these without some guarantees it couldn't accidently get lost.


Yup, the changes I think need to be made

1) Transponders cannot be disabled above X number of feet
2) Black box data should be actively uploaded to a satellites in real time
3) Depressurization should not be allowed above 10k feet
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89506 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 9:56 am to
quote:

NO shite! according to vader, this is a 264 MILLION DOLLAR airplane.


I think I said that - and it is $261.5 million.

quote:

i sure as hell wouldn't write a check for one of these without some guarantees it couldn't accidently get lost.


I don't think the airline cares all that much - but their insurance carrier sure as hell does.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69071 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 10:20 am to
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3) Depressurization should not be allowed above 10k feet


that is going to be hard to do.

In a plane the fail safes are supposed to drop the masks anyway if it goes over 10k. But all someone has to do to depressurize a plane is. Open an emergency exit.
Posted by Camo Tiger 337
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2014
2014 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 10:25 am to
Don't know if this has been posted but...
quote:

If the Australians or anyone else locate the first wreckage on missing Flight MH370, don't expect immediate answers as to what caused the plane to go down.

Debris needs to be tracked back to the main wreckage and then the all-important black boxes must be recovered.

The first thing investigators will do is try to determine if any debris matches something consistent with an airplane. Luggage with tags is obvious. There should also be serial numbers on Boeing plane parts that can be quickly tracked back -- presuming those items haven't sunk.

More: Objects Spotted by Satellite Are 'Best Lead' in Malaysia Airlines Search

More: Aboard the P-8 Poseidon Plane Searching for Malaysian Jetliner

If it is confirmed that wreckage is associated with the flight, investigators will work with oceanographers to begin to determine currents and winds.

Large pieces of the plane will have sunk beneath what could be deep ocean. Small pieces will be blown by winds and pushed by currents. Debris could easily be hundreds of miles away from the main wreckage.

Finding the main wreckage, if it is located deep under water like Air France 447 will be a complicated and very expensive prospect, but it's important to aviation safety to get an answer.

One thing investigators will look for if they recover debris is any signs of scarring or pitting that might indicate an explosion.

Ultimately, even if the debris is found, it may take years before there is an answer to this mystery.

And of course, there's always another possibility: This could just be stuff floating in the ocean.
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