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O-T lawyers..I need your input
Posted on 6/17/16 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 6/17/16 at 1:58 pm
Let's say that you and I are good friends for the last 30 years and you've had a business behind your house working on vacuum cleaners for 5 years.
I go to school and become certified to work on airplanes.
You and I decide after nothing more than a verbal agreement, to expand your shop and make an area for me to work on airplanes.
I pay for the entire expansion and afterward I move all of my specialty tools into my part of the shop. I personally purchase all of these tools.
Then one day I die in a car crash without having left a will or any other documents on what I want done if I died.
Do you now own all of my tools and belongings or does the surviving family that has receipts for everything in the shop now own it?
I go to school and become certified to work on airplanes.
You and I decide after nothing more than a verbal agreement, to expand your shop and make an area for me to work on airplanes.
I pay for the entire expansion and afterward I move all of my specialty tools into my part of the shop. I personally purchase all of these tools.
Then one day I die in a car crash without having left a will or any other documents on what I want done if I died.
Do you now own all of my tools and belongings or does the surviving family that has receipts for everything in the shop now own it?
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Posted on 6/17/16 at 2:02 pm to NatalbanyTigerFan
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You and I decide after nothing more than a verbal agreement
This would be your frick up.
Also, i'm not a lawyer but I did stay at a Holiday inn express last night.
This post was edited on 6/17/16 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 6/17/16 at 2:03 pm to NatalbanyTigerFan
You'r not planning on keeping your dead friends stuff are you.
Posted on 6/17/16 at 2:05 pm to NatalbanyTigerFan
Having a house next to a runway sounds a tad odd...
Posted on 6/17/16 at 2:05 pm to dawginar
quote:
You'r not planning on keeping your dead friends stuff are you.
Nope
I'm on the other side of this. I'm the family of the deceased.
Posted on 6/17/16 at 2:07 pm to NatalbanyTigerFan
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Do you now own all of my tools and belongings or does the surviving family that has receipts for everything in the shop now own it?
The answer depends on whether or not you and I had formed a partnership before your demise, and it's not possible to answer that question on these facts. IF you and I had formed a partnership, the tools and whatnot would be property of the partnership, BUT your family would inherit your share of the partnership including a share of the value of the tools.
*I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice*
This post was edited on 6/17/16 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 6/17/16 at 2:08 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
quote:
he answer depends on whether or not you and I had formed a partnershi
There was no partnership
Posted on 6/17/16 at 2:09 pm to NatalbanyTigerFan
I'm no lawyer but if there is any way to identify the deceased's property as theirs...I wouldn't think the shop owner could keep it as their own. It would have go into a secession for the family to decide who gets what (without a will).
Without receipts or other identification of the property how could the deceased's family or legal system know it's theirs...sure it's an airplane tool versus a vacuum cleaner tool...but still...
Without receipts or other identification of the property how could the deceased's family or legal system know it's theirs...sure it's an airplane tool versus a vacuum cleaner tool...but still...
Posted on 6/17/16 at 2:10 pm to NatalbanyTigerFan
You're not getting your dads stuff unless his friend wants to give it to you
Posted on 6/17/16 at 2:10 pm to NatalbanyTigerFan
First off you should have permits to work on airplanes in residential neighborhood
Posted on 6/17/16 at 2:11 pm to NatalbanyTigerFan
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There was no partnership
Ok good, then what was the arrangement?
Posted on 6/17/16 at 2:12 pm to NatalbanyTigerFan
quote:
There was no partnership
Then it sounds like two separate businesses. So vacuum cleaner guy would not own any of the parts or tools. The building expansion, while paid for by the airplane guy, may be a different issue if it is on the property owned by vacuum cleaner man if there was no formal agreement.
Are you trying to get the vacuum cleaner guy to buy out your family for the expanded portion of the building?
Posted on 6/17/16 at 2:13 pm to NASA_ISS_Tiger
The family has all of the receipts were the deceased paid for the expansion and bought all of the tools.
Posted on 6/17/16 at 2:15 pm to NatalbanyTigerFan
Go choke the vacuum guy to within a inch of his life and I bet he gives you the tools. Will probably even deliver them to you. Sometimes a good arse kicking works wonders.
Posted on 6/17/16 at 2:16 pm to NatalbanyTigerFan
not sure but can i have that guy's number, my vacuum is having issues?
Posted on 6/17/16 at 2:17 pm to HogBalls
The family wants all of the tools bought by the airplane guy returned and the vacuum guy says they now belong to him.
Posted on 6/17/16 at 2:20 pm to NatalbanyTigerFan
If you can prove that the items are yours then you'll be fine. If not, the other guy will get the benefit of the doubt since the items are stored on his property. A lot of he say/she say but if the items he is claiming does not coincide with his business and does with yours you may have a shot to recover them in court. Prepare for a sticky situation.
Posted on 6/17/16 at 2:20 pm to NatalbanyTigerFan
I heard the Vacuum repair business sucks.
I also heard that the upside of the airplane repair business is taking off.
I did also heard that there's a KFC $5 meal deal for two pieces of crispy chicken with two sides and a drink.
I further did also hear that trying to cheat a 30 year dead friend's family out of his shite is bad gris gris.
I also heard that the upside of the airplane repair business is taking off.
I did also heard that there's a KFC $5 meal deal for two pieces of crispy chicken with two sides and a drink.
I further did also hear that trying to cheat a 30 year dead friend's family out of his shite is bad gris gris.
Posted on 6/17/16 at 2:21 pm to NatalbanyTigerFan
And how much rent did Orville Wright pay for his part of the shop to be on the property? Utilities?
This post was edited on 6/17/16 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 6/17/16 at 2:21 pm to soccerfüt
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I further did also hear that trying to cheat a 30 year dead friend's family out of his shite is bad gris gris.
and to top it all off, none of us have heard his side of the story... so......
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