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Posted on 7/26/16 at 12:42 pm to Hog on the Hill
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I think we've taken less than 3,000 Syrian refugees since the beginning of the civil war. I wouldn't call that a "flood"
Europe seems to be taking the brunt. Will be interesting to see how Europe develops over the next 20-30 years.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 12:44 pm to Hog on the Hill
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I think we've taken less than 3,000 Syrian refugees since the beginning of the civil war. I wouldn't call that a "flood"
Yeah, comparing the amount of refugees we've taken to those taken by European countries along with our refugee/immigrant vetting process to their's isn't exactly fair. It's an easy talking point, though.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 12:46 pm to NoNameTiger
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We have a clearly defined enemy here as well. Our government just won't acknowledge it.
How dense are you? We don't have a clearly defined enemy, if we did we could easily go in and eradicate them.
Who exactly is the clearly defined enemy you speak of right now?
Posted on 7/26/16 at 12:48 pm to Darth_Vader
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And I could go on and on but you should get the picture by now. Europe has opened the floodgates to Muslims for the past several decades and now those Muslims are slaughtering Europeans right and left. What Europe is seeing right now is a preview of what we'll be seeing here soon thanks to the flood of "refugees" we're brining in right now.
Well, it's not really a preview because we haven't opened the doors to Muslim radicals and allowed them to form Muslim ghettos and radical mosques for the better part of 30 years like France, England and Belgium have. Even in Detroit and Minneapolis, there is a huge gulf between the Molenbeek and Dearborn, etc.
So yes, when we're talking about what the US should do about the threat to the US, the terror attacks are most definitely "isolated."
Posted on 7/26/16 at 12:48 pm to NoNameTiger
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We have a clearly defined enemy here as well. Our government just won't acknowledge it.
Muslims? Because that wouldn't be true.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 12:49 pm to tiderider
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so the ww ii vet assumes all isis soliders wear the same uniform ... don't try to hide their allegiance before their attacks ... don't live among the public but together ... work together in a unified fashion so that's it's obvious who's who ... did not know that ...
"Little Boy" and "Fat Man" didn't care where they hide, what uniform they did or didn't wear or if they were mixed in with the public.
Oh and there was Dresden.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 12:51 pm to Pettifogger
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there is a huge gulf between the Molenbeek and Dearborn, etc.
Very. Molenbeek and similar enclaves are breeding grounds for violence against the West. We've been far better at assimilation.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 12:53 pm to Hog on the Hill
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think we've taken less than 3,000 Syrian refugees since the beginning of the civil war. I wouldn't call that a "flood"
In all the terrorist attacks we've seen in the past several months, how many people were involved? Most were one, maybe two or three. Look at Nice just a couple weeks ago. Over 80 killed and far more wounded. That was one guy and a truck.
And as for a "flood", if Hillary is elected, it's only just starting
Clinton: US should take 65,000 Syrian refugees
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 7/26/16 at 12:55 pm to Darth_Vader
65K annually actually at the expense of the taxpayer
Vote Hillary if you love Muslims being imported on your dime.
Vote Hillary if you love Muslims being imported on your dime.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:09 pm to Darth_Vader
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What Europe is seeing right now is a preview of what we'll be seeing here soon thanks to the flood of "refugees" we're brining in right now.
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In all the terrorist attacks we've seen in the past several months, how many people were involved? Most were one, maybe two or three. Look at Nice just a couple weeks ago. Over 80 killed and far more wounded. That was one guy and a truck.
Make up your mind.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:27 pm to lsu2006
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What Europe is seeing right now is a preview of what we'll be seeing here soon thanks to the flood of "refugees" we're brining in right now.
quote:In all the terrorist attacks we've seen in the past several months, how many people were involved? Most were one, maybe two or three. Look at Nice just a couple weeks ago. Over 80 killed and far more wounded. That was one guy and a truck.
Make up your mind.
Make up my mind? How is what I'm saying not registering with you? I'm saying two things.
1. We're bringing in thousands of Syrian "refugees".
and
2. It only takes one person to carry out attacks that kill and maim massive numbers of innocent people.
One point does not contradict or go against the other. How is that confusing to you?
Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:37 pm to Darth_Vader
What gets me about the liberals on here apologizing for our president and the Democratic nominee by saying, "Well, it's not a flood. It's only 65,000 a year. Plus, they're vetted" is why are we even taking a single one? At all? Can you give me a compelling reason when there's ample evidence across Europe what this leads to?
Also, let's be clear. There is no vetting process. That's a pipe dream and merely lip service this administration throws out there to give themselves cover.
Also, let's be clear. There is no vetting process. That's a pipe dream and merely lip service this administration throws out there to give themselves cover.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:41 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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What gets me about the liberals on here apologizing for our president and the Democratic nominee by saying, "Well, it's not a flood. It's only 65,000 a year.
Where in God's name is anyone apologizing for or advocating Hillary or her plan to bring in 65k? I'm not voting for that POS and don't agree with bringing in 65k. FTR, Obama "planned" to bring in 10K and last I saw we'd brought in like 1.5k (prob more now) this year.
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Also, let's be clear. There is no vetting process. That's a pipe dream and merely lip service this administration throws out there to give themselves cover.
Holy jesus.Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:43 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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What gets me about the liberals on here apologizing for our president and the Democratic nominee by saying, "Well, it's not a flood. It's only 65,000 a year. Plus, they're vetted" is why are we even taking a single one? At all? Can you give me a compelling reason when there's ample evidence across Europe what this leads to?
Also, let's be clear. There is no vetting process. That's a pipe dream and merely lip service this administration throws out there to give themselves cover.
And why do we need to bring them here anyway? I'm all for helping helpless women and children. But why can't we do that via refugee camps set up in safe areas? UN refugee camps have been the norm in situations like this since WWII. So why now all of a sudden do we import them here by the tens of thousands instead of setting up refugee camps over there so they can easily go home once it's all over? Or is the intention that they'll never go home? And if that's the case, that leads to one question... Why?
Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:48 pm to Salmon
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I assume all the posters calling for WW3 will be on the front lines?
I've served- and continue to serve- my country. In a war to preserve our way of life, our culture and our freedoms, yes.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:53 pm to ClientNumber9
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I've served- and continue to serve- my country. In a war to preserve our way of life, our culture and our freedoms, yes.
Same here. I've done it before when my country called and if it came to it again today and they'd take my broke down old arse, I'd do it again without hesitation.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:56 pm to Darth_Vader
I'm not disagreeing with your question.
That said, the ideal is if we can help out some number of vetted women/children/families who are looking for our way of life.
Refugee camps are a breeding ground for radicalization, so not sure that is helpful, but keeping them somewhere else if we're unsure of our vetting procedure is fair.
That said, the ideal is if we can help out some number of vetted women/children/families who are looking for our way of life.
Refugee camps are a breeding ground for radicalization, so not sure that is helpful, but keeping them somewhere else if we're unsure of our vetting procedure is fair.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:01 pm to bmy
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Comparing the Japanese to ISIS
It is stunning that you failed to grasp his analogy.
The Japanese were even more dedicated to "the Cause" than these half-witted Muslims.
Bombing them into obedience and submission was absolutely the only right choice.
He wasn't referring to the tactical situation in as much as he was answering the whiny "ideology" argument.
Damn, I wish we had more like him.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:04 pm to VetteGuy
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He wasn't referring to the tactical situation in as much as he was answering the whiny "ideology" argument.
?
It seems to me he was exactly referring to the tactical situation and how we eradicating it before
but that wouldn't work now
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