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re: Normandy Church Terror: ISIS Slits Throat of Preist and Takes Nuns Hostage

Posted on 7/26/16 at 11:43 am to
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 11:43 am to
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Tell me a way to tell which Muslims are peace loving, American Patriots and which ones are terrorists hell-bent on slaughtering infidels.


Uh, I don't know? Along the lines of your question... How do you know who is Muslim and who isn't? People don't tattoo their religious ideology to their foreheads. I'm all for us beefing up immigration protections and ensuring anyone coming from one of these dangerous regions is properly vetted, but I fail to see how a mass deportation of Muslims is even possible or how it would even be beneficial and not create even more strife and/or extremism.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 11:44 am to
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t I fail to see how a mass deportation of Muslims is even possible


its not

Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 11:44 am to
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Tell me a way to tell which crazy rednecks are peace loving, American Patriots and which ones are fricking crazy and hell-bent on slaughtering people in a black church.

I ask because if the question is how do we stop them from killing us in our own streets, that is a problem we're going to have to either find a solution for or just accept that on any given day some fricking crazy guy will decide today is the day they're going to take out a hundred or so of us in a theatre.


Muslim fare better in America because they actually do assimilate better than in France where they're marginalized. The opportunities are better for them here.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 11:46 am to
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just accept that on any given day some Muslim will decide today is the day they're going to take out a hundred or so of us.



This is he world we live in. Killing a couple of people don't give people the press they need so they ramp it up and kill dozens, or hundreds at a time.

Genocide isn't an option no matter how much anyone wants it to be. You can't let these people make you sacrifice your soul no matter what they do.
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 11:52 am to
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All Japs were located in quote: Japan All Muslims are located where?


They also had Japs in America and we locked them all up in camps. What we would need to do is round up all Musims in non-Muslim countries while we fire-bombed and nuked the Muslim countries. Then we could ship all of the ones we have back to live in the bombed out countries and let them know they get a nuke for every attack on a Western country.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 11:57 am to
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Uh, I don't know? Along the lines of your question... How do you know who is Muslim and who isn't? People don't tattoo their religious ideology to their foreheads. I'm all for us beefing up immigration protections and ensuring anyone coming from one of these dangerous regions is properly vetted, but I fail to see how a mass deportation of Muslims is even possible or how it would even be beneficial and not create even more strife and/or extremism.


Very well. Then we're just going to have to accept that things like attacks we've seen in New York, Orlando, Paris, Brussels, London, Madrid, Nice, San Bernardino, Boston, Chattanooga, Fort Hood, and as of this morning Normandy are now just an accepted part of normal life.
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 12:00 pm to
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Then we're just going to have to accept that things like attacks we've seen in New York, Orlando, Paris, Brussels, London, Madrid, Nice, San Bernardino, Boston, Chattanooga, Fort Hood, and as of this morning Normandy are now just an accepted part of normal life.

Normal? Are you serious?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 12:00 pm to
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Normal? Are you serious?


To an extent, yes. That seems to be the direction the discourse is taking.
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 12:02 pm to
Believe what you want I guess. Still no one can answer for me how were to go about determining who is Muslim and how to go about deporting all of them.
Posted by junkfunky
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 12:04 pm to
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literally gay
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 12:04 pm to
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Normal? Are you serious?


Well, if you're not going to do anything to address the problem, then yes. You're saying these attacks are now a normal part of our lives. And by normal I mean they happen on a regular and increasingly frequent basis. How is that funny to you?
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 12:07 pm to
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All Muslims are located where?


At the place we're gonna carpet bomb. Keep up!



The one point in the post with the WW2 guy quote is the brutality that is needed. We are not ready to match it in any way. Any use of force is questioned. Use of drones is questioned. Collateral damage is questioned. The world blamed itself for a Syrian boy drowning while fleeing genocide in an overloaded boat and falling out?
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 12:08 pm to
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Believe what you want I guess. Still no one can answer for me how were to go about determining who is Muslim


Simple, we already know most of them because they live in Muslim communities. One benefit of the refusal of Islamic communities refusing to assimilate into Western culture is the vast majority of them are easily identifiable.

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how to go about deporting all of them.


Put them on boats and or planes and ship them to whatever Muslim country they come from or will take them. The Saudis have plenty of money and plenty of room. Send them there. Let them live out their life in peace there while we live out our life here. I fail to see how this is impossible to some of you.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 12:11 pm to
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Then we're just going to have to accept that things like attacks we've seen in New York, Orlando, Paris, Brussels, London, Madrid, Nice, San Bernardino, Boston, Chattanooga, Fort Hood, and as of this morning Normandy are now just an accepted part of normal life.


You can't stop warped people from carrying out their desires. This isn't new. This has been happening since the founding of the National Liberation Front and Fatah, and hasn't slowed a bit. Different groups, different "terror." It's not the new normal, it is normal. The locations have changed somewhat. The biggest driver was the founding of the Kindom of SA in 1932 and the money they pump into the effort through "charities" and other religious endeavors.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 12:13 pm to
Who would we carpet bomb? I mean, parts of India? Indonesia?
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 12:14 pm to
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Very well. Then we're just going to have to accept that things like attacks we've seen in New York, Orlando, Paris, Brussels, London, Madrid, Nice, San Bernardino, Boston, Chattanooga, Fort Hood, and as of this morning Normandy are now just an accepted part of normal life.




I guess in lieu of this we could start a apocalyptic world war with some genocide thrown in.

Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 12:19 pm to
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You can't stop warped people from carrying out their desires.


There are two ways you can stop such people.

1. Kill them (but how do we know who they are until it's too late?)

2. Remove them from society by either locking them up or deporting them out of the country.

That's it. Those are your only two options if you want to stop Islamic terrorism in the West. Is either option pleasant or easy? Of course not. But to fail to accept the situation for what it is will only ensure the problem gets worse.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 12:20 pm to
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The biggest driver was the founding of the Kindom of SA in 1932 and the money they pump into the effort through "charities" and other religious endeavors.

The kingdom is in bed with the wahhabism movement and until they are put to task of addressing this, nothing will change. When the saudis start allowing free thought instead of a fundamental doctrine, nothing changes. And remember, these are our allies.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 12:21 pm to
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I guess in lieu of this we could start a apocalyptic world war with some genocide thrown in.


No, the other option is to remove them from our society so they cannot attack us.

Again, if you (or anyone) can come up with another viable solution to stop it, I'm all ears.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260562 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 12:23 pm to
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You can't stop warped people from carrying out their desires.



There are two ways you can stop such people.

1. Kill them (but how do we know who they are until it's too late?)

2. Remove them from society by either locking them up or deporting them out of the country.


How do you know who they are?

What happened to the Christians in the 1st century and a few hundred years beyond? What happened to the ideology? This isn't a nation we are fighting it's an ideology. The more you stomp it, the more it seems to spread.

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That's it. Those are your only two options if you want to stop Islamic terrorism in the West. Is either option pleasant or easy? Of course not. But to fail to accept the situation for what it is will only ensure the problem gets worse.


It will only exacerbate the problem IMO.

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