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Posted on 5/23/17 at 2:42 pm to ThuperThumpin
US dilemma: sit back and wait for NK to kill untold amounts in Seoul, or strike first and accept that China is going to use that against you in the region diplomatically. Russia will use it against you when you claim to be the good guy, Iran, et al.
NK dilemma: wait for US to attack first and maybe get wiped out without throwing a punch while hoping in vain China will come to the rescue, or attack first and kill untold amounts in Seoul before US wipes you out.
NK dilemma: wait for US to attack first and maybe get wiped out without throwing a punch while hoping in vain China will come to the rescue, or attack first and kill untold amounts in Seoul before US wipes you out.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 2:44 pm to Cocotheape
quote:But why is it a US dilemma? Why can't a whole bunch of countries closer to NK decide it's their issue and they can deal with it?
US dilemma: sit back and wait for NK to kill untold amounts in Seoul, or strike first and accept that China is going to use that against you in the region diplomatically. Russia will use it against you when you claim to be the good guy, Iran, et al.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 2:47 pm to Cocotheape
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NK dilemma: wait for US to attack first and maybe get wiped out without throwing a punch while hoping in vain China will come to the rescue, or attack first and kill untold amounts in Seoul before US wipes you out.
no idea what they accomplish either way.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 2:53 pm to shel311
Because they would attack S Korea or Japan who are important allies, especially as we try to maintain influence in the area as China continues to fill out as a world power.
Now we could ignore it, and hope China doesn't take advantage, and that our other allies wouldn't be too bothered by us not keeping our word with Japan and S. Korea. Also hope that N Korea doesn't develop something that could reach us.
Now we could ignore it, and hope China doesn't take advantage, and that our other allies wouldn't be too bothered by us not keeping our word with Japan and S. Korea. Also hope that N Korea doesn't develop something that could reach us.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 2:54 pm to ThuperThumpin
That’s it, I am moving all my money to Bitcoin
Posted on 5/23/17 at 2:55 pm to Cocotheape
quote:Sooo....why aren't SK and Japan attacking NK? Why the US?
Because they would attack S Korea or Japan who are important allies, especially as we try to maintain influence in the area as China continues to fill out as a world power.
And the US could provide ancillary support, along with SK and Japan, shouldn't that be enough to take down the mighty NK?
This post was edited on 5/23/17 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 5/23/17 at 2:55 pm to ThuperThumpin
Posted here last week that the Eisenhower left Norfolk for NK as well. Something may be up
Posted on 5/23/17 at 2:55 pm to Chad504boy
Kill a lot of South Koreans who are their enemy? Force the US to come around the world and fight and hope China shows up, or at least postures enough that they continue to exist?
People have fought battles they probably cant win since the beginning of time.
People have fought battles they probably cant win since the beginning of time.
This post was edited on 5/23/17 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 5/23/17 at 2:56 pm to shel311
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Why can't a whole bunch of countries closer to NK decide it's their issue and they can deal with it?
They probably are not technically capable of pulling it off without risking massive death toll in S Korea and other parts of the region. Most of the military pundits I've heard talking about this say its going to be damn difficult even for us to pull off an attack on N Korea with out them unleashing a massive amount of artillery on to S. Korea.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 2:56 pm to ThuperThumpin
They've been saying this for 10 years. Guess it might happen one day
Posted on 5/23/17 at 2:57 pm to shel311
quote:
Sooo....why aren't SK and Japan attacking NK? Why the US?
Because they aren't strong enough to do so.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 2:58 pm to ThuperThumpin
never going to happen...NK is better at trolling than Ken M
Posted on 5/23/17 at 2:59 pm to Crowknowsbest
quote:NK is stronger than SK and Japan combined?
Because they aren't strong enough to do so.
Also, do other European countries not care about this? It's closer to home for them than the US?
Fwiw, these are honest questions. I don't know the details too much on this, it just never makes sense to me why other countries can't take the lead, and it always has to be the US who takes the lead.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 3:00 pm to shel311
Because we want to maintain influence in that area and if Japan and S Korea didn't need our military spport we would have less influence.
As far as taking down N Korea, nobody knows. The army could break immediately or the propaganda could be strong and they could dig in in the mountains and hold out for however long.
As far as taking down N Korea, nobody knows. The army could break immediately or the propaganda could be strong and they could dig in in the mountains and hold out for however long.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 3:01 pm to shel311
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NK is stronger than SK and Japan combined?
Yeah probably. Japan was largely disarmed post WWII. Not sure they have much capability at all right now.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 3:02 pm to shel311
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Sooo....why aren't SK and Japan attacking NK? Why the US?
N Korea is the 4th largest army in the world. What they lack in sophistication they make up for in numbers. Japan and SKorea are not capable.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 3:03 pm to Crowknowsbest
quote:Interesting, I thought they were the laughingstock of countries, NK that is.
Yeah probably. Japan was largely disarmed post WWII. Not sure they have much capability at all right now.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 3:05 pm to shel311
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it just never makes sense to me why other countries can't take the lead, and it always has to be the US who takes the lead.
The burden of being the lone military superpower
Posted on 5/23/17 at 3:08 pm to Cocotheape
quote:Why it it more important for us to maintain influence compared to all of Europe and/or a bunch of those countries, much closer to this situation?
Because we want to maintain influence in that area
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