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Posted on 5/23/17 at 3:10 pm to shel311
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Interesting, I thought they were the laughingstock of countries, NK that is.
It wouldn't take much sophistication for them to do some serious damage to Seoul. It's really close to the border.
I'm not a tactician, but it seems like the key to an attack on NK would be overwhelming force and coordination in the initial strike. You have to render them incapable of a major retaliatory strike on Seoul.
I doubt there are many nations on Earth capable of that.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 3:10 pm to TheCaterpillar
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It would be a fascinating dive into that culture.
As KJU would say "that's a geaux tigers"
Posted on 5/23/17 at 3:11 pm to shawnlsu
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Admiral Harris explained to Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) that if the United States allows North Korea to overcome its inherent weaknesses with a nuclear tipped intercontinental ballistic missile aimed at the United States, “then we're going to be in a position to be blackmailed by Kim Jong-Un and I think that's probably a worse place to be. I think that we'll all agree that everything that's been done up to this point has not worked in deterring Kim Jong-Un. So we must stop that, somehow.”
was reading this article
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Posted on 5/23/17 at 3:11 pm to shel311
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Another question, what does Japan and SK provide to us that makes this worth it to help them?
Economic partnerships and influence in the region. Asia is a huge market, obviously, and those are two of our best partners in it.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 3:15 pm to shel311
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Another question, what does Japan and SK provide to us that makes this worth it to help them?
Not to sidestep your question but NKorea has been a regional threat to SKorea and Japan since the end of the Korean War. Our interest in taking this regime out now is he is getting closer and closer to be able to threaten the US mainland with a nuclear missile strike or proliferate the technology to some other groups that would like to harm us.
This post was edited on 5/23/17 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 5/23/17 at 3:16 pm to shel311
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shouldn't that be enough to take down the mighty NK?
I think a bunch of these would be enough
Posted on 5/23/17 at 3:16 pm to shel311
Because we like being a superpower, European countries are not superpowers and it is not worth their more limited resources.
Countries close to the situation are China, South Korea, and Japan. They all are doing what they can to best position themselves to come out of it in the best possible way.
Keep in mind, China would probably prefer that NK kept to itself so they could maintain their hedge against US aligned countries.
Countries close to the situation are China, South Korea, and Japan. They all are doing what they can to best position themselves to come out of it in the best possible way.
Keep in mind, China would probably prefer that NK kept to itself so they could maintain their hedge against US aligned countries.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 3:18 pm to ThuperThumpin
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N Korea is the 4th largest army in the world
doesn't mean shite in this case as it didn't mean shite with Iraqi's army title of "one of the largest".
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What they lack in sophistication they make up for in numbers.
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Japan and SKorea are not capable.
The ROK would wipe the floor with NorKo arse alone. But that's irrelevant. The U.S. military will be right along side of our ROK brothers whippin NorKo arse. Is the conflict imminent? No, but I do think it is inevitable and it's a fight that is just and needed to free the innocent people of N.K.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 3:23 pm to Chad504boy
quote:Wow, that's crazy.
A strike against Seoul would be devastating. At 25 million people, it is the most densely populated city in the world. Seoul is just 30 miles from the demilitarized zone, the contested boundary between North and South which are still technically at war and restrained only by an armistice in place since 1953.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 3:23 pm to ThuperThumpin
Is there an educated man or woman here that thinks it would be a good idea to sit here and do nothing? To let that mad man and his military acquire nukes and the capability to deliver them via ICBM to our doorstep? This upcoming war is worthy of our patience and support gentlemen.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 3:25 pm to Johnny B Goode
A united, free Korea would be a great thing as long as diplomacy with China was treated with the utmost care.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 3:34 pm to Cocotheape
Absolutely nothing is going to happen in the short term. This is simply Trump sabre rattling right back at Lil Kim trying to show him that the US won't just give in to whatever it is that he wants everytime they threaten us. Kim isn't going to do shite.
Now IF they actually do get extremely close to nuclear capability + means of delivery...then all bets are off. It would depend on the President's political policy. A regime like our previous one would favor diplomacy I'm sure, while the current one would likely favor military action.
Now IF they actually do get extremely close to nuclear capability + means of delivery...then all bets are off. It would depend on the President's political policy. A regime like our previous one would favor diplomacy I'm sure, while the current one would likely favor military action.
This post was edited on 5/23/17 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 5/23/17 at 3:35 pm to Commander Data
quote:For me, it's not that nothing needs to be done, it's that why can't the countries closer to the situation take care of it. As it's been said, maybe they just aren't strong enough to do so.
Is there an educated man or woman here that thinks it would be a good idea to sit here and do nothing? To let that mad man and his military acquire nukes and the capability to deliver them via ICBM to our doorstep? This upcoming war is worthy of our patience and support gentlemen.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 3:36 pm to ThuperThumpin
I don't think it's happening but if the US strikes first then we better damn well render NK useless because if not Seoul will catch hell. The humanitarian crisis that would follow would be of epic proportions.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 3:36 pm to Cocotheape
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Keep in mind, China would probably prefer that NK kept to itself so they could maintain their hedge against US aligned countries.
Yes, but if Kim goes too far, they would also have him taken out and replaced in a heartbeat to avoid a unified Korea and US/SK invasion of NK.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 3:39 pm to Johnny B Goode
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The ROK would wipe the floor with NorKo arse alone. But that's irrelevant.
I was responding to a hypothetical that will not happen. Japan and SKorea would never go at it alone against NKorea. The ROK would win but you honestly think they could go at it alone with out suffering massive casualties? That is what I meant by capable.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 3:42 pm to shel311
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NK is stronger than SK and Japan combined?
NK has sheer numbers of troops on their side. SK buys American jets and arms, so they'd have the advantage on technology. Problem would be whether SK would be capable of repelling a massive NK invasion force before they reached Seoul, which is only 30-35 miles from the border with NK.
Japan's military was gutted post-WW2. Their military is almost entirely defensive in nature now, so they'd be pretty limited in being able to retaliate against any NK strike on them without US intervening. Though I believe that the US is obligated by treaty to come to Japan's defense if they're attacked.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 3:44 pm to Johnny B Goode
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doesn't mean shite in this case as it didn't mean shite with Iraqi's army title of "one of the largest".
The stakes were far different. Its not a question of losing a war with NKorea. Its the cost.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 3:45 pm to shel311
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they just aren't strong enough to do so.
That is correct plus the North Koreans are sworn enemies of the United States. Every president since Clinton has persued every diplomatic avenue possible including giving them food and an embarrassing amount of money. Even if China and Japan were capable of dealing with it (they are not) we can't put our well being in their hands. Sure lots of lives will be lost. War is hell and I think we have bent over backwards to keep it from coming to that.
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