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Next up on California’s fight for equality…banning Clear, which lets you skip TSA lines

Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:36 pm
Posted by SPEEDY
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Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:36 pm
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A new bill, the first of its kind in the U.S., would ban security screening company Clear from operating at California airports as lawmakers take aim at companies that let consumers pay to pass through security ahead of other travelers.

Sen. Josh Newman, a California Democrat and the sponsor of the legislation, said Clear effectively lets wealthier people skip in front of passengers who have been waiting to be screened by Transportation Security Administration agents.


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"It's a basic equity issue when you see people subscribed to a concierge service being escorted in front of people who have waited a long time to get to the front of TSA line," Newman told CBS MoneyWatch. "Everyone is beaten down by the travel experience, and if Clear escorts a customer in front of you and tells TSA, 'Sorry, I have someone better,' it's really frustrating."


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Newman is undaunted, describing his bill as an effort to improve travel for the majority of passengers.

"It's about dignity in the travel experience of people who don't have money to pay for upsell services," Newman said.


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James Smith of booking site Travel Lingual said the bill at the very least "prompts a necessary dialogue" on how to best balance convenience and equity when it comes to navigating airport security.

"While Clear offers a time-saving solution for travelers willing to pay, concerns about fairness and the exacerbation of socioeconomic disparities cannot be ignored," he said.


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Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39577 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:38 pm to
They are just mad they don't get any money from it.

I don't see them banning toll roads.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124115 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:39 pm to
Well I sure hope politicians never ever get special treatment.

It could hurt someone's feelings
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
83360 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:39 pm to
First class, business class, and priority boarding is next
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
34553 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:39 pm to
frick California.
Posted by RingLeader
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2007
1047 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:42 pm to
Dumb... Clear just funnels their people into the TSA Pre-check line. Not the regular line. Anyone can get the TSA Pre-check done if you're willing to take the time to do it.... Well, most anyone.

And, oddly, its not wealthy travelers that I see using Clear.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38751 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:43 pm to
honestly it’s fairly ridiculous that you can pay a fee and all of a sudden be less of a security risk. Hard to argue that it makes the skies any safer

yes I’m aware that there’s a background check. I had to go thru all that to get a TWIC. But 99.9% of the unwashed masses in the TSA line can pass a background check. It doesn’t mean shite
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37615 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:43 pm to
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Dumb... Clear just funnels their people into the TSA Pre-check line. Not the regular line. Anyone can get the TSA Pre-check done if you're willing to take the time to do it.... Well, most anyone.


Anyone could get an ID to vote but....you know how it goes......
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
28335 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:44 pm to
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First class, business class, and priority boarding is next

It won’t stop there. Luxury cars and hotels will not be able to offer top of the line amenities at higher prices.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61190 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:44 pm to
"Equity" magically will include all the same goals as climate change. Funny.
Posted by AlextheBodacious
Member since Oct 2020
1473 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:44 pm to
Clear is bullshite and shouldn’t be allowed to exist anyway.
Posted by NotoriousFSU
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2008
10208 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:45 pm to
Every time I use Clear I look upon the poors as I am escorted to the front of the line and I scoff and say, “Look here peasants waiting in line, I am better than you.”
Posted by SWCBonfire
South Texas
Member since Aug 2011
1260 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:45 pm to
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Anyone can get the TSA Pre-check done if you're willing to take the time to do it.... Well, most anyone.


And if you have a TWIC, you already have a known traveler ID and should be precheck anyway if you input it at time of ticket purchase.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
11279 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:45 pm to
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"While Clear offers a time-saving solution for travelers willing to pay, concerns about fairness and the exacerbation of socioeconomic disparities cannot be ignored," he said.


Did anyone think to ask him why it can’t be ignored?

It feels like it could easily be ignored. In fact I’ve ignored it for years, and I don’t have clear.
Posted by James11111
Walnut Creek
Member since Jul 2020
4657 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:46 pm to
You will post anything to get positive reinforcement, huh?
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
11279 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:47 pm to
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Clear is bullshite and shouldn’t be allowed to exist anyway.


I’ll buy that it should just be an intensive pre screening Ala pre check but that’s not an equity issue for me
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
9288 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:48 pm to
Why not ban First Class on a plane? Think of all the frustrated people crammed in smaller cheaper seats, wishing that could afford a little more luxury.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27342 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:48 pm to
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banning Clear


I will mudhole stomp a bitch. I have used it for almost a decade and love it. frick Cali! The shite is not free. I paid for it.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
9288 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:51 pm to
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"Equity" magically will include all the same goals as climate change. Funny.

The goal of equity is communism. If you follow equity to it's logical conclusion, someone can't have Ruth's Chris if others can't afford it. Everyone must eat the same government porridge.
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
5355 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:54 pm to
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Hard to argue that it makes the skies any safer


Learn to read.

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honestly it’s fairly ridiculous that you can pay a fee and all of a sudden be less of a security risk.
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yes I’m aware that there’s a background check.


Hmmmm

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But 99.9% of the unwashed masses in the TSA line can pass a background check.


Then pay the fee. 99.9% of the unwashed aren't frequent flyers. They fly once in a blue moon. Clear and TAS Pre-Check spending big money flying weekly or monthly. They SHOULD be able to pay a fee for expedited processing.
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