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re: New Orleans 2004 vs. New Orleans 2014

Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:16 pm to
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75265 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:16 pm to
quote:

2004-Jimmys & Tucks bar
2014-No Jimmys & Tucks bar


Who cares. Madigan's is still rocking
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37155 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:16 pm to
quote:

As far as the young professionals go, no, they're not flocking to NOLA. Sure, hipsters are gentrifying bayou St. John and the Bywater, but there is still much work to be done from an aesthetic standpoint, as well as economically.


There are several groups of young professionals who are flocking to the city.

1) Entreprenuers

2) Teach For America types

3) People who want to work with nonprofits / community service types

4) Anyone who can be considered an "artist" in any stretch, such as music, painting, literature, craft, etc

5) Just within the last 12-24 months, Info Tech

What there is a significant absence of, is young professionals in traditional professional fields - finance, accounting, engineering, architecture, etc.

This is because, by and large, these fields have most of their entry level jobs inside large firms or large corporations, neither of which we have many of in this city.

When you think of a traditional young professional, NOLA is still a very difficult city in which to get your first professional job. I've seen that upclose with a family member, who is a recent graduate in the same field that I work in. She has struggled to even get interviews... of the four she has gone on, three of them were with people I know through professional relationships.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37155 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:19 pm to
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You can see white people walking down Claiborne Ave. and MLK Blvd.


This was one of the first things that surprised me when we moved back to NOLA about 2.5 years ago. White people where there had not been white people in 30 years. White people riding their bikes through the upper 9th ward. For the first few months, I wanted to roll down my windows and say, "You better leave before you get shot!"
Posted by Guess
Down The Road
Member since Jun 2009
3776 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:20 pm to
quote:

NOLA 2004: Steady decline of population, jobs

NOLA 2014: Steady incline of population, jobs


Simple, and pretty accurate. The population is also more diverse and there's a much higher Hispanic population now. All in all, if all of that money spent on hurricane protection is effective, we should be looking at a sustained period of economic and population growth, if not I don't want to think about it.
Posted by lighter345
Member since Jan 2009
11865 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:24 pm to
Tulane still needs to bring back their Engineering program.
This post was edited on 5/29/14 at 10:24 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37155 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:24 pm to
I'll put it this way. In 2004, I strongly was considering leaving the city. Katrina did it for me. But I willingly came back.

This city has a positive vibe in it that I don't ever remember seeing growing up. It's as if we are finally moving forward. People want to invest here. People are moving companies here. The schools are on the way up (although they have ways to go). Things are being built.

Of course, it's uneven. Black druggie gangbangers are still killing other black druggie gangbangers. But by and large, as long as you stay out of a few select areas of the city, you are safe.

The one thing that makes me wonder is... how much better off would this city be at this minute, if Mitch could have beaten the chocolate man in 2006. We basically pissed away four years.

There is one big concern I have though, and this is more for the city proper than the region. The city has made a lot of improvements with Katrina money. However, will the city be able to afford to keep up those improvements in the long run? Or will the schools, the few new roads, etc go to crap in ten years?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37155 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:27 pm to
quote:

Tulane still needs to bring back their Engineering program.


I generally think Cowen was a really good president, but I still don't understand what in the world he was thinking here.

Maybe with the new president, they will consider bringing it back.
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
20922 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:43 pm to
Freret St. is a great example.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:46 pm to
quote:

Yeah but are they engineers or hippie life-long waiters/waitresses?


The latter. My friend is an engineer and he cannot wait to get the frick out of here

NOLA is a 3rd rate city
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:50 pm to
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Is better than it has been since I have been alive. And yes, I am old.



I'm not quite as old as you, but I wouldn't have moved back in 2004 but would now.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:58 pm to
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Tulane still needs to bring back their Engineering program.



We have Engineering.

LINK
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35555 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 11:23 pm to
quote:

2004 >>>>>>>> now

Posted by lighter345
Member since Jan 2009
11865 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 11:57 am to
After Katrina they eliminated the majority of the Engineering degrees. Civil for example.


LINK

LINK
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35113 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 12:06 pm to
10 years of new bums
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 12:15 pm to
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There is an awful lot of excitement and optimism right now.


There's never been more of these during the modern area. It's an amazing time for the city and the state.
Posted by 995webmaster
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
3780 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

not so sure about that. Most of my group from LSU ended up in TX



Most of YPs moving here went to better schools...
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67207 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 12:17 pm to
White people in the bywater-marigny
More black people on the west bank and in east jeff
More tech jobs
More investment in healthcare
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67207 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

Tulane still needs to bring back their Engineering program.


Agreed. When i was looking at engineering schools, despite being able to get a great scholly to Tulane, i had to cross them off my list because they got rid of so many programs after Katrina.
Posted by Sal Minio
17th Street Canal
Member since Sep 2006
4182 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 12:26 pm to
I was headed down that hippie life-long waiter job in 1974(Victoria Station Restaurant) but fortunately turned things around. Was still making $200 a night and it was very tempting to stay put.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 12:27 pm to
Katrina made New Orleans question everything. We're keeping the food, the music, the architecture, the parades, and all the weird stuff we like. We're changing everything else. Evidence - the new hospital facility, the new airport, the charter schools...

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