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re: Neurotheology Team Proves “God Helmet” Is Real
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:46 pm to BigEdLSU
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:46 pm to BigEdLSU
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In the grand scheme of things, you either believe or you don't. Some funny hat won't be changing that
You're sort of missing the point. The point is that there is an area of the brain that, if manipulated, produces an experience similar (if not the same) as the mystical experience reported by religious individuals.
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:46 pm to La Place Mike
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God is pissed that someone took his helmet and he knows who you are.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:49 pm to rbWarEagle
No I'm not missing the point at all. Digesting the quoted section of the OP wasn't difficult.
Like I said, some funny hat won't be changing faith. You either have it or you don't.
Like I said, some funny hat won't be changing faith. You either have it or you don't.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:51 pm to blueboy
What I'm really taking from this is that there is a helmet that will make you all fricked up and you can pass a drug test the next day.
This is progress people.
This is progress people.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:52 pm to BigEdLSU
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Like I said, some funny hat won't be changing faith. You either have it or you don't.
By design, apparently.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:53 pm to blueboy
So basically an instant massive dose of psychedelics without the hassle of chemical risks?
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:54 pm to rbWarEagle
I'm not going to argue with you on who is right or wrong, I was just assuming it would be easy to see, even to an atheist, that this device won't be the main reason that a person chooses to have faith in God or not.
Sure, you can attempt to argue that it is the end all be all, but that's just silly.
Sure, you can attempt to argue that it is the end all be all, but that's just silly.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:54 pm to Hawkeye95
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I suspect that religious people will suggest that this means god is real.
It could be used either way.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:56 pm to blueboy
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the Journal Of Consciousness Exploration and Research
You mean, the JOCER (pronounced, "joker")?
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:57 pm to BigEdLSU
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I'm not going to argue with you on who is right or wrong, I was just assuming it would be easy to see, even to an atheist, that this device won't be the main reason that a person chooses to have faith in God or not.
No, the device will not. The individual's brain, however, is the factor in play. Choosing seems an odd word, considering this scenario.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:00 pm to blueboy
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neurotheology
This is a thing?
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:00 pm to rbWarEagle
You know what they say about assuming, I presume?
Just because they can make people have a certain type of reaction with their "funny hat" does not prove at all that some people are predisposed to religion. Well to be honest I truly hope that isn't what it means, that would be so sad. Imagine if 20% of people were lost from birth, that would be a tough pill to swallow.
Just because they can make people have a certain type of reaction with their "funny hat" does not prove at all that some people are predisposed to religion. Well to be honest I truly hope that isn't what it means, that would be so sad. Imagine if 20% of people were lost from birth, that would be a tough pill to swallow.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:00 pm to ManBearTiger
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So basically an instant massive dose of psychedelics without the hassle of chemical risks?
When is this hitting the market?
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:01 pm to BigEdLSU
I'm going to bring my son to an interview at a Christian school so I can't dive deep into this thread right now. It is interesting though.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:02 pm to BigEdLSU
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Just because they can make people have a certain type of reaction with their "funny hat" does not prove at all that some people are predisposed to religion.
That is certainly one of the implications.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:03 pm to LucasP
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But seriously, I suspect both sides will claim this as proof one way or the other.
Can't we all just look at it as pretty cool that we've got electronic drugs now?
Seriously. This could be a cool thread about science and the metaphysical, but instead there's a lot of the traditional reactionary preemptive existence/nonexistence of God BS.
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:04 pm to blueboy
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A team of neurotheology researchers have
GRAMMAARRR!
Article debunked.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:06 pm to The Sad Banana
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I don't even know what I just read.
TLDR version: It makes you feel like you've reached Nirvana or an Enlightenment.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:08 pm to Sev09
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It makes you feel like you've reached Nirvana
I'd love to meet those guys.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:09 pm to TigerinATL
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This could be a cool thread about science and the metaphysical,
OK let's do that. So if they can manipulate brainwaves to create a religious experience, then what's next? Could they induce pure bliss? If we could create the technology and make it widely available, maybe that would be a more meaningful existence to the individual than any external pursuit could provide. Maybe we all get addicted to happiness and just quit doing life.
Could be that "great filter" that always comes up in the Fermi paradox threads.
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