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Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:27 pm
Posted by Barrister
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Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:27 pm
Looking to buy a new camera, but I know very little about them.

Need something very easy to use, strong telephoto lenses, wi-fi upload, at least 10 frame burst, and video capability. Looking for something that helps a novice take some really sharp photos.

Any of you guys know anything about cameras, and can suggest something? Someone suggest the Canon Rebel with a telephoto lens.

Thanks.
Posted by LSUKTR
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
1489 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:28 pm to
Sony Alpha6000
Posted by ScottyB
Member since Apr 2016
39 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:32 pm to
Budget?
Posted by bubblehead26
Temecula
Member since Apr 2012
333 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:33 pm to
Nikon D90
Posted by Barrister
Member since Jul 2012
4620 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:33 pm to
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Budget?


not married to a budget, but would like to keep it around $1K or so
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:37 pm to
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Looking to buy a new camera, but I know very little about them.



I'm not trying to be a dick. You can get a million dollar camera but if you don't know how to use it, in addition to having photographic talent, it's a waste of money.

Think about it like a guitar. You can get a $10k badass guitar with a $10k vintage amp used by insert-rockstar, and another $50k in top of the line recording equipment...

But if you don't know what you are doing, it's all worthless.

What I'm saying is that if you don't know what you want, you don't have the knowledge to make what you want work for you.
Posted by Barrister
Member since Jul 2012
4620 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:41 pm to
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deeprig9


No, I get it dude. And you are right. I know my limitations and photography is one. I just know that pointing and clicking a better camera is gonna get me better pics than pointing and clicking my iPhone. I probably will not be able to maximize the camera capabilities, but if it user friendly it will work as I gradually learn to use it. At least that is my hope.
Posted by theantiquetiger
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Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:42 pm to
You not going to find 10 fps, maybe 7 at that budget.

I would buy used, maybe a Canon 60D. Body will run you about $500 used (max). You need to invest in the glass. A decent used lens will run you about $600-800. They do have new long reach lenses for $200 or so, but quality isn't nearly as good. You can get these used for $150. The quality is not bad if you are just looking simple images, not high quality photos.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45779 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:42 pm to
Canon 5D Mark VI can make any novice shoit professional looking images with ease. I can't praise thus camera too much.

Get quality lenses with built-in image stabilization. Canon does it right (in my opinion). It's in the lens, not the camera.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:47 pm to
Fujifilm xt-2.

Much better, far better lenses than canon or Nikon.
Posted by theantiquetiger
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Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:48 pm to
From what you are asking about, that camera will not be user friendly.

Like Deeprigs said, unless you are planning on learning the camera to its fullest, don't waste your money. It took me over 5 years to just understand how to use a DSLR in manual/semi-manual. A few weeks ago I was shooting in New Mexico and a lady there with a Nikon loved my photo. She wanted to get the same shot. I let her use my tripod and try to show her how to do it. I had no clue how to operate her camera. Just to show you of technical these things are.
This post was edited on 8/11/17 at 9:52 pm
Posted by theantiquetiger
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Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:50 pm to
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Canon 5D Mark VI


The guy said $1000, not $3500 without a lens.

Plus, it's not the camera, it's the photographer. Deeprig nailed it, just because you own a $10,000 Les Paul, doesn't make you a great guitar player.
This post was edited on 8/11/17 at 9:52 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260689 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 10:00 pm to
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You not going to find 10 fps, maybe 7 at that budget.


10 is way too much unless you're a professional sports photographer.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260689 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 10:35 pm to
Pentax K-70 and 18-135 lens is about as good as you can get for $900

I've got the Fujifilm XT-1 with the 18-55 kit lense which is the best kit lens in the business. I paid $1400, they're running around $1200 now





These are out of the camera, copies of copies but give you an idea of the color reproduction and how accurate it is. Just tweaked highlights and shadows a bit.


Posted by gpburdell
ATL
Member since Jun 2015
1423 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 10:45 pm to
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No, I get it dude. And you are right. I know my limitations and photography is one. I just know that pointing and clicking a better camera is gonna get me better pics than pointing and clicking my iPhone.


Sony Cybershot RX100. The best point and shoot camera you can buy. Uses same sensor as Sony 4K video cameras. Small enough to fit in a pocket or leave in glove box. Alot of venues won't even let you take in a DSLR these days.

I was in a similar situation a few years ago. I wanted something that can take better pictures than a phone, but easy to use. Went with the RX100 and have been very happy.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45779 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 11:05 pm to
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The guy said $1000, not $3500 without a lens.

Plus, it's not the camera, it's the photographer. Deeprig nailed it, just because you own a $10,000 Les Paul, doesn't make you a great guitar player.
That's like saying you shouldn't spend a lot of money on great golf clubs unless you're already a great golfer.

Puleeze! Stop with this elitist, "got to learn your craft on mediocre equipment first" BS. That just sounds like YOU couldn't afford it when YOU learned the craft, so to be fair, everyone should do like YOU.

If a modern, state-of-the-art camera creates a really incredible image because the "new" photographer purchased equipment that is great and helps make it easier, sounds like you guys just want to marginalize someone that does that instead of embracing it and understanding how that can lead to more excitement and people developing a yearning to learn the craft. Just my opinion, for what it's worth.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260689 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 11:08 pm to
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Puleeze! Stop with this elitist, "got to learn your craft on mediocre equipment first" BS. That just sounds like YOU couldn't afford it when YOU learned the craft, so to be fair, everyone should do like YOU.


Yeah I don't buy into that either. However a 5k system is overkill for a novice.

Spend a grand on a good camera and a couple grand on some good glass. Used lenses are a great option.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51908 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 11:08 pm to
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Looking for something that helps a novice take some really sharp photos.


You are going to need to stretch your budget.


By a lot.

Especially with the "strong telephoto"



Tell me what you want to do exactly.

What kind of things will be your subjects, and how poor light do you think you will be shooting in?

Do you need something small and compact (point and shoot), or are you willing to haul gear to the shot?

Do you have value in it being rugged? (Water/dust proof with full underwater function)

You can't just say you are a novice and say you need a good telephoto lens.

I've done landscaping and architectural shots I've been happy with a 85mm prime, which is mid telephoto, but I wouldn't dream of shooting wild life with it.
This post was edited on 8/11/17 at 11:18 pm
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45779 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 11:18 pm to
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Spend a grand on a good camera and a couple grand on some good glass. Used lenses are a great option.
Actually, very good advice. Hard to get great bokah with cheap lenses.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51908 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 11:21 pm to
Yep.

Doesn't matter if he is casually serious and gets a modest camera with crop sensor or a fricking D5, he will spend more on the glass than the actual camera.
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