re: Need A New dog food. Anyone use Victor Ocean Fish?

i do. and coconut oil.

Has any one used Victor Ocean Fish? it is right above a dollar a pound. I might try that next. I used Victor Hi Pro for a while and did well but he coat isnt as shiny as it is on fish formulas.

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Yes, many vets make money selling high-end or specialty dog food.

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Nothing Hill's makes is high-end or specialty, nor is Royal Canin, another "high-end" option Vets sell.

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However, they get to choose which ones they want to offer, based on their 8 years of schooling and experience in animal medicine.

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Again, Vet schools do not focus on nutritional needs for dogs. They focus on medical needs. Two of my friends from high school are vets, and they've corroborated this.

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It's not all about kickbacks per se... if there's a better brand than, Science Diet per your example, they will decide to carry that one, and get kickbacks from the new company.

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Generally speaking, most vets don't invest their own time to learn about a "better" food. Hill's in particular is so ingrained in the Vet profession, many don't question that there are much better options out there. You are starting to see more Vets research, but for every one Vet clinic stocked with any independent brand dog food, there are twenty that only stock Hill's and Royal Canin.

If a Vet stocks a food other than Hill's or RC, it is usually at a high investment and lower margin than they get from those two. Most small companies have a frequent buyer program (buy 10 bags at once and get one) but none that I'm aware of offer monetary kickbacks like Hill's.

the coconut oil is bs btw. Dogs don’t have the same makeup as humans and their bodies literally can’t process coconut oil. So you are just wasting your money.

Also Hills Science diet is one of the best brands for numerous reason. None of which is kickbacks for vets.

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Do you even know what "by product" means? And that the US is the only country in the world that has the AAFCO definition of "chicken by product" meal.

It's bullshite marketing. You get more protein from chicken by than you do from chicken meal.

Unless it's fresh protein, it's all by product from the human protein side.

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I never mentioned meal. Meal is fine as long as it's created from fresh, food-grade meats.

Meal =/= by-product.

It seems to me, as it pertains to dog food, you do no know what by-product is.

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Nutro or Merrick

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Correct. Both actually make their own food.

Pretty sure Taste of the Wild is Co-Man trash.

Along with much of the Blue product out there, they only have 1 plant, soon to be 2, but are still farming out much of their production.

By from companies that actually make their own food Mars (Nutro, Iams, Euk, RC, Crave, Pedigree) Nestle (Purina, Merrick) and Fromm if you want to spend a ton.

Half of the brands people have listed are just brands, 100% marketing and don't even have their own facilities or quality control.

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the coconut oil is bs btw. Dogs don’t have the same makeup as humans and their bodies literally can’t process coconut oil. So you are just wasting your money.

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While there is some refute just like every topic, everything i have researched says there are benefits orally and topically. plus the stuff is cheap from amazon.

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50.00 for 28 lbs.

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yea thats too expensive.

Hey if you think it works then have at it.

But they don’t have the proper enzyme to break down coconut oil. That’s just a medical fact.

Royal and Science Diet do have their places but only if you see serious health issues or specific concerns with what they're not eating.

Most of the additional SKUs are 100% marketing play.

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printing a fancy bag and fancy name and filling it with 3rd party kibble.

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Do tell!