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re: Ndamukong Suh has some thoughts about one of the OT's favorite subjects. Tipping

Posted on 2/21/24 at 2:20 pm to
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
21840 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 2:20 pm to
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He's correct. It's a way for businesses to pass cost to customer.


I’m sorry. I majored in Economics but that was a while ago…if the owner paid for the servers at their desired wages and had to raise prices to afford that…where would the costs go?
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13543 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

I’m sorry. I majored in Economics but that was a while ago…if the owner paid for the servers at their desired wages and had to raise prices to afford that…where would the costs go?



It'd be interesting to see. I think at first they'd pay more to employees and raise cost of food, but the free market may force them to lower cost of food and have fewer employees. I think it'd land somewhere in the middle.

ETA:

But apologies, I just minored in Economics.


This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 2:24 pm
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
1518 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 2:25 pm to
I already refuse to tip unless it’s for sit down service. I think I will just start tossing a $5 on the table for sit down, too. If you read articles and forums, these service folk act entitled and ungrateful anyway.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158774 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 2:25 pm to
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Tipping at service counters is fricking absurd to me. Why am I tipping at Chipotle? I do it, but I hate myself for it.


I do wonder if they expect a tip or is it just part of the software many use now and it just tip shame people that are afraid to hit 0 there, so they're happy with whatever they get
Posted by GruntbyAssociation
Member since Jul 2013
3793 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 2:30 pm to
Let me tell you a little story about a boy named Suh.
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
14507 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

we pay over $200 to have the dogs groomed


You buying them dogs a weave and some extensions? $200??? Dayum
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20505 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

I’m sorry. I majored in Economics but that was a while ago…if the owner paid for the servers at their desired wages and had to raise prices to afford that…where would the costs go?


You realize you have to INCLUDE tips right? Additionally, as I said service does tend to go down but people adjust and get used to it.

Things done differently in Europe at restaurants is:
1.) No free refills of soda or non alcohol
2.) water also often times sold by the container
3.) Servers have more tables
4.) Slower service, people take their time.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13543 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 2:39 pm to
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You buying them dogs a weave and some extensions? $200??? Dayum

Ours is $100 and I tip $20 He did say he had multiple dogs so $200 tracks with what I've seen.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
14754 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 3:13 pm to
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Any time I see an iPad I know I'm about to be asked to tip for something that I didn't have to tip for 5-10 years ago.


This has more to do with the payment companies finding one more way to increase the transaction and make more money.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158774 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 3:32 pm to
yeah two large dogs

quote:

and I tip $20


see I don't get why its expected. They have their price, I accept that, they do the job, I pay at the end. That should be the end of the transaction.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2012
13606 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

It's a way for businesses to pass cost to customer.


All costs are passed on to the consumer.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21941 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 3:41 pm to
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Juts got off a cruise (inb4trashy) with auto tips added to our bill.
Sounds dumb. If they're adding automatic gratuity to everyone's bill, they just need to increase the price and do away with calling it "tips".

Automatic gratuity being added should only apply to larger groups at restaurants. Mainly since that'll be the one of, if not the only table that server is waiting on for an hour or more. And getting stiffed by a big table during lunch/dinner rush would mean that server probably isn't making shite for that shift.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45250 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 3:46 pm to
Businesses would pass the costs on to consumers if we eliminated tipping.

Servers would make substantially less and the service we would receive would be on par with the shite service you get in Europe. Here, quality service is so engrained we get upset when someone is noticeably not providing quality service - in Europe, you just expect bad service.

That doesn't mean tipping is out of control. But the fault lays at the feet of the service providers lobbying to get tips included in every single transaction imaginable.
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
16895 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 3:56 pm to
Seems like the rest of the world found a more efficient system while we here in the US are still guessing and arguing what’s the right amount to pay.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
40370 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 4:01 pm to
He should be able to afford a few dollars here and there with his 80 million dollars
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
1518 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 4:02 pm to
They’ve admitted they. It can be turned off bc it’s automatically on. They just don’t. It’s easy to hit “no” after a couple of times.
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
8687 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 4:33 pm to
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I get tipping and why its done in the restaurant business...for servers

but I don't get why tipping is expected in other areas where people are paid a wage. For example, we pay over $200 to have the dogs groomed, why is a tip expected on top of that?


Well said
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90787 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 4:56 pm to
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auto tips added to our bill.


Sadly a lot of businesses that do auto tips won’t even pass it all to the workers.

When possible I give cash tips directly to servers who do a good job
Posted by 45RCRoy45
Northern VA
Member since Apr 2020
606 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 5:42 pm to
Mr Pink ??
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29311 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 6:05 pm to
He’s not wrong food service workers should be paid a fair wage and customers should not be expected to subsidize that in the form of a “tip”….if that means food price increases so be it at least everyone pays the same.
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