re: Naked student bangs on police station window shot by cop.

nice, one less bammer

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What about pepper spray, a night stick, etc?

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Pepper spray does not work in close quarters. perhaps he is a detective and doesn't carry a night stick.

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He was at the police station, why did he go outside by himself?

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Small department and late at night he might just be the only one there. Perhaps the subject was about to break the front window while beating on it.

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was acting erratically and lunged toward him.

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What if the kid was bigger than him? The cop felt threatened and used force to protect himself. Obviously it sucks this kid died, but what would you do if someone suspicious lunged at you after banging on a door?

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Pepper spray does not work in close quarters

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When else would it be used?

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Small department and late at night he might just be the only one there. Perhaps the subject was about to break the front window while beating on it.

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Doubtful at a university

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Many police departments and officers do not carry Tasers. I have even seen small departments that had no Tasers or OC spray

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Maybe they should invest in non-lethal weapons when dealing with a college campus instead of:

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For reasons that haven’t been divulged by the university, the campus police department is not equipped with Tasers. However, according to photographs taken by the university newspaper The Vanguard during last April’s lockdown, they do possess automatic rifles, shotguns, tactical gear and new model patrol cars. With 33 sworn officers, even the size of the force is on par with other state universities that have lower crime rates. Some suggest that if Austin had been holding a Taser instead of a handgun, Collar would have been sitting next to his classmates this week, perhaps embarrassed but alive.

"We don’t have them at this time,” he said. "There is a lot of controversy over their use.”

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Wouldn't want the controversy. We'll just use a gun instead

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Unless you are saying the DA withheld evidence from the grand jury, the grand jury only hears the prosecution's side of the story. Its why grand juries are usually rubber stamps.

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That was my point.

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The university has since told the Associated Press Austin was also equipped with both a baton and pepper spray.

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That story has very little credibility as it contradicts itself. After writing what you linked above it goes on to say this:

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"My understanding is they don’t have Tasers at South,” he said. "One of the problems police officers often have when you get in that situation, you have to use what you have. If you have a Taser you can use it, but you can’t say in the middle of an incident, ‘hey wait a minute, I’m going back to get my Taser.’”

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I have found at least 3 articles claiming that the police there do not have Tasers and one even mentioned a protest march by students to encourage that department to purchase Tasers.

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God forbid you just place the blame on the kid that was on drugs and banging on a police station

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This doesn't justify his death

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This doesn't justify his death

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Opinions are like a-holes.

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Naked man can't carry concealed

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LINK

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evidence of imminent threat to life like injuries

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the cop didn't know this....for all he knew the naked guy could have had military training.

what if the naked guy lunges onto the, grabs his gun, kills the cop, then goes off on a shooting rampage.......this thread then changes, and everyone is criticizing the cop for not drawing his weapon and shooting the guy.


did the cop have a chance to make some sort of verbal contact with the naked guy, or did he walk outside, and then all the sudden the guy lunges at him? if that's the case then his training instincts take over and he draws his weapon and shoots. he may not have had time to make a decision on what type of force to use.

if I'm a cop and someone lunges at me out of nowhere I'm shooting, and asking questions later. sure it may end up that the person shot was unarmed, but without knowing that I've got to take it as a life and death situation.