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re: MTSU student makes Facebook post while on the run for murder (NSFW)
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:02 am to ItNeverRains
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:02 am to ItNeverRains
quote:You have zero evidence to back this up. And tell me this: do you think seeing and participating in fake violence desensitizes kids more than seeing and participating in real violence when we send them off to war?
I’m sure being older impacts my position. But if your argument is technology has not skewed and desensitized today’s youth and negatively impacted mental health then you are an idiot.
In my opinion, video games give kids an outlet when they might otherwise do things in the real world. Am I an idiot for thinking that? I have just as much evidence as you do.
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Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:03 am to ItNeverRains
quote:
But if your argument is technology has not skewed and desensitized today’s youth and negatively impacted mental health then you are an idiot.
So someone is an idiot for simply not believing your theory/opinion? I'm not saying you're wrong. But before I take your opinion as fact I'd like to know your qualifications or at least read a frickin' abstract.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:08 am to LSU Coyote
Never said it was the only problem.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:09 am to eScott
They just found his body.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:21 am to prplhze2000
quote:
They just found his body.
good.
riddance.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:24 am to Korkstand
quote:
when we send them off to war?
lol they choose that
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:31 am to oleyeller
quote:I'm talking about society in general and throughout history. This guy thinks video game violence is bringing out the worst in kids, but kids have been seeing much worse for centuries. That was the point, I guess I wasn't clear.
lol they choose that
Also, of the kids that "choose" to go to war, how many do you think had no better options in life?
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:42 am to Korkstand
quote:
You have zero evidence to back this up. And tell me this: do you think seeing and participating in fake violence desensitizes kids more than seeing and participating in real violence when we send them off to war?
In my opinion, video games give kids an outlet when they might otherwise do things in the real world. Am I an idiot for thinking that? I have just as much evidence as you
Can we agree that soldiers sent off to war, which may have real life scenarios like the ones on the VR/simulations, May experience PTSD from those situations?
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:42 am to Korkstand
quote:
Also, of the kids that "choose" to go to war, how many do you think had no better options in life?
not getting into an argument over this. But everyone has options. And as far as military goes, that is one that should be valued and appreciated
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:43 am to ItNeverRains
quote:..yes..?
Can we agree that soldiers sent off to war, which may have real life scenarios like the ones on the VR/simulations, May experience PTSD from those situations?
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:46 am to Korkstand
quote:
..yes..?
And we also agree that biologically and physiologically we are sending adults into these situations who sometimes come back with PTSD?
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:48 am to oleyeller
quote:Easy to say for people who actually have options.
But everyone has options
quote:Ok. You can value and appreciate something, and recognize the cons at the same time. There are cons to everything.
And as far as military goes, that is one that should be valued and appreciated
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:52 am to ItNeverRains
quote:Sure.
And we also agree that biologically and physiologically we are sending adults into these situations who sometimes come back with PTSD?
Are you trying to draw a distinction between "kids" and adults?
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:58 am to Korkstand
quote:
In my opinion, video games give kids an outlet when they might otherwise do things in the real world.
You are wrong. While video games have not necessarily been linked to violent crime, excessive game play has been conclusively linked to aggressive behavior.
This post was edited on 4/9/18 at 10:59 am
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:59 am to Korkstand
quote:
Easy to say for people who actually have options.
Doesnt everyone have options? Anyone can choose to attend college or not.
Anyone can choose to get a job... or not
anyone can choose to join the military.. or not
Posted on 4/9/18 at 11:05 am to Evolved Simian
quote:
You are wrong.
"You are wrong" followed by zero evidence.
quote:You don't say.
While video games have not necessarily been linked to violent crime
quote:Well this seems obvious, doesn't it? Like I said, video games give kids an outlet. It isn't surprising at all that there is a correlation. Now can you find a study that proves the direction of causality?
excessive game play has been conclusively linked to aggressive behavior.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 11:06 am to ItNeverRains
quote:Is this poster really comparing real life war to a war based video game?
And we also agree that biologically and physiologically we are sending adults into these situations who sometimes come back with PTSD?
Is that the angle he's going for?
Posted on 4/9/18 at 11:08 am to oleyeller
quote:Very easy to type that out...makes it easy to ignore real life scenarios and situations that actually play out that make it not as easy as what you just typed out.
Doesnt everyone have options? Anyone can choose to attend college or not.
Anyone can choose to get a job... or not
anyone can choose to join the military.. or not
Posted on 4/9/18 at 11:16 am to SECdragonmaster
Happy to hear this dude is dead, tbh. As he said after his sociopathic rampage, all sympathy to his remaining family. May they somehow find peace through this.
This post was edited on 4/9/18 at 11:17 am
Posted on 4/9/18 at 11:16 am to oleyeller
quote:Sure. And can you agree that life circumstances make some options far more attractive than others for different people? Can I go so far as to say that these circumstances can make some options so infeasible as to be hardly an option at all?
Doesnt everyone have options?
quote:For some (many?), the best/only path to college or a job is via military service. That's all I meant by "no better options".
Anyone can choose to attend college or not.
Anyone can choose to get a job... or not
anyone can choose to join the military.. or not
Anyway, let's put this side argument aside and get back to the other side argument: people have done crazy evil things since the beginning of time... what role do video games play in today's evil? Is it positive (by providing a safe outlet for aggression) or negative (conditioning kids to accept violence as normal)? If we look at it objectively, most of the evil in the world today is being committed by people who likely have never played a video game at all.
This post was edited on 4/9/18 at 11:18 am
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