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More and more are going at it to change Mississippi's state flag
Posted on 8/17/15 at 11:03 am
Posted on 8/17/15 at 11:03 am
Posted on 8/17/15 at 11:05 am to DVinBR
All Mississippi has to do to fix racism is change its flag.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 11:08 am to DVinBR
This won't stop until the whitewashing of history is complete. Watch- one day Gettysburgh will be a memorial to fallen Union soldiers against an unknown and forgotten enemy. If you have Confederate ancestors, now may be the time to get information in them- while it's still available.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 11:10 am to weagle99
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All Mississippi has to do to fix racism is change its flag.
..and stop forcing the media to show black men with white women, right Weagle?..
Posted on 8/17/15 at 11:12 am to NYNolaguy1
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This won't stop until the whitewashing of history is complete. Watch- one day Gettysburgh will be a memorial to fallen Union soldiers against an unknown and forgotten enemy. If you have Confederate ancestors, now may be the time to get information in them- while it's still available.
are they closing museums and burning books?
The rebel battle flag has no place on state grounds.
The statues and memorials though, they should stay. Especially for men who were American heroes way before the Civil War like Lee and Beauregard.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 11:14 am to DVinBR
Everyone says "leave it to the states" but when the state says 'frick off' they change the narrative to the state government must do it....pathetic
Posted on 8/17/15 at 11:16 am to NYNolaguy1
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If you have Confederate ancestors, now may be the time to get information in them- while it's still available
It's only a matter of time. In my kid's history class, they're teaching them that the southern states wanted to secede from America and maintain slavery. They don't even mention the important stuff.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 11:21 am to LucasP
If they teach them that Lincoln touched people's buttholes, that's good enough.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 11:22 am to LucasP
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It's only a matter of time. In my kid's history class, they're teaching them that the southern states wanted to secede from America and maintain slavery. They don't even mention the important stuff.
That's how it's been for years. Yes States Rights played a bigger role, but make no mistake the biggest of the rights was the right to slavery. Most do not seem to know that two Union states still had slaves up until 1865. These states knew that the end was near though and slavery was not as popular as it was in the agrarian south. The Missouri compromise and the feeling that states could not do as they wish, really led to the dissent from the land owners. The average joe who would become a soldier probably didn't give two shits about slavery or excessive tariffs. I do find it a cop out to say bluntly that the Civil War was not about slavery, as Slavery is what that war will ALWAYS be tied to. The tariffs on Southern products and goods probably had more to do with the actual succession though, but even those tariffs were introduced by abolitionists.
The South did secede and maintain slavery, and the war ended slavery, so you cannot say that slavery was not the big change or event for the war. You can say that states rights and unfair taxation did lead to the conflict though.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 11:23 am to Napoleon
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are they closing museums and burning books?
The rebel battle flag has no place on state grounds.
The statues and memorials though, they should stay. Especially for men who were American heroes way before the Civil War like Lee and Beauregard.
It's not about the flag. You'll start to see a movement to get rid of anything associated with the confederacy for the same reason that Landrieu wants to tear down Lee Circle. Some people find it offensive, therefore it must come down.
After all, there are Confederate records on file at the Louisiana Archives, a state facility. I am sure there were slaveowners among them. If the flag is offensive, what about their records? Why commemorate "traitors"?
Further, a lot of history museums receive state funding. Should the state be bankrolling exhibits to keep the memory of slaveholders and "traitors" alive?
The arguments that are coming will be predictable and sadly successful at this rate.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 11:23 am to NYNolaguy1
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This won't stop until the whitewashing of history is complete. Watch- one day Gettysburgh will be a memorial to fallen Union soldiers against an unknown and forgotten enemy. If you have Confederate ancestors, now may be the time to get information in them- while it's still available.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 11:24 am to LucasP
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It's only a matter of time. In my kid's history class, they're teaching them that the southern states wanted to secede from America and maintain slavery
How dare "they" teach such unfairly accurate information.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 11:25 am to Napoleon
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The average joe who would become a soldier probably didn't give two shits about slavery or excessive tariffs.
Enlistees were more likely to be enmeshed both directly and indirectly with slavery than the southern population at large.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 11:25 am to BRgetthenet
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they teach them that Lincoln touched people's buttholes, that's good enough.
Not a single chapter about Lincoln being a homosexual! They don't even explain how most black people liked being slaves and how the north took that way from them.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 11:26 am to LucasP
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In my kid's history class, they're teaching them that the southern states wanted to secede from America and maintain slavery
Clearly you're not in Texas, where the exact opposite has happened.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 11:45 am to Napoleon
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..and stop forcing the media to show black men with white women, right Weagle?..
Since when do we cross talk topics on the various TD boards?
Unbunch your french panties.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 11:46 am to Big Scrub TX
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Big Scrub TX
Like a moth to a flame.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 11:48 am to DVinBR
Archie Manning is on board? Game over.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 11:58 am to DVinBR
All because a mentally unstable boy started shooting in a black church. Mentally unstable.
This absurd reactionary movement needs to calm down
This absurd reactionary movement needs to calm down
Posted on 8/17/15 at 12:01 pm to NYNolaguy1
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It's not about the flag. You'll start to see a movement to get rid of anything associated with the confederacy for the same reason that Landrieu wants to tear down Lee Circle. Some people find it offensive, therefore it must come down.
I wish this applied to everyone and not just one group of people. So many things I would tear down
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