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Mom sues to stop Bible study classes in West Virginia schools

Posted on 1/21/17 at 6:00 pm
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 6:00 pm
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A kindergartner's mother is suing her public school system in West Virginia, asking that it discontinue a 75-year practice of putting kids in Bible classes that violate the U.S. and state constitutions.

The woman, identified as "Jane Doe" in the federal lawsuit backed by the Freedom From Religion Foundation, says her child will be forced either to take these weekly classes at her Mercer County elementary school or face ostracism as one of the few children who don't. Her daughter is called “Jamie” in the suit.

Seems legit at first glance.

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Teresa Russell, another county schools official, told the Charleston Gazette-Mail that the Bible courses are voluntary, financed by a nonprofit group and that the system's 19 elementary and middle schools provide alternative courses at the same time.

This post was edited on 1/21/17 at 6:10 pm
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 6:00 pm to
Separation of church and stupidity. If they are voluntary she is an idiot.
Posted by shamrock
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 6:01 pm to
Wickens gonna wicken yo
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 6:02 pm to
She wants money
Posted by BR Tiger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 6:03 pm to
She should win this one easily. It's pretty well established that religious activities on public school campuses must be student driven and outside of regular school time. The fact that they have alternate classes for those who don't want to participate tells me this is during the school day. That's not appropriate.

Posted by ScubaTiger
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 6:03 pm to
Is this a public, tax supported, school?
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 6:03 pm to
Lord help her.
Posted by Lee Chatelain
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 6:05 pm to
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The woman, identified as "Jane Doe"


I just love a pop off that isn't even brave enough to man up and use their real name. Coward!
This post was edited on 1/21/17 at 6:07 pm
Posted by AFtigerFan
Ohio
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 6:09 pm to
Sounds like the mom is pissed that her child wants to go to bible study.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 6:10 pm to
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She should win this one easily. It's pretty well established that religious activities on public school campuses must be student driven and outside of regular school time. The fact that they have alternate classes for those who don't want to participate tells me this is during the school day. That's not appropriate.

Very good point
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 6:10 pm to
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Is this a public, tax supported, school?

yes
Posted by gamatt53
Member since Nov 2010
4934 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 6:12 pm to
Tax money shouldn't fund Bible study, Koran study, Scientology study, Buddhist study or any other religion in a public school.
Posted by JombieZombie
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 6:12 pm to
Shouldn't be in schools, voluntary or not. If they want to learn nonsense they can do it at church.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 6:18 pm to
I'm very strongly for the separation of church and state. I personally have no problem with religious studies or groups at a public school. But it should be outside regular school hours.
Posted by Kodar
Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
4558 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 6:20 pm to
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Tax money shouldn't fund Bible study, Koran study, Scientology study, Buddhist study or any other religion in a public school.


In the OP it states that the class is financed by a non-profit group, which tells me that tax payer money isn't footing the bill on this one. At least that's what it sounds like.
Posted by EmperorGout
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 6:22 pm to
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Teresa Russell, another county schools official, told the Charleston Gazette-Mail that the Bible courses are voluntary, financed by a nonprofit group and that the system's 19 elementary and middle schools provide alternative courses at the same time.




If this happens during class hours she's going to win so easily.

You can have Bible Club at lunch, or before/after school. If they're doing it during instruction time I hope they get the book thrown at them.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 6:24 pm to
Man, I don't believe in a God but let them have the class. It isn't a bad thing to have in schools. Just like with Santa and the Easter Bunny, parents should dictate when is the right time to tell their child. Until them let them have the class and behave because God is watching.
Posted by gamatt53
Member since Nov 2010
4934 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 6:25 pm to
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I personally have no problem with religious studies or groups at a public school. But it should be outside regular school hours


Just no. My taxes fund the school property, the salaries, the utilities etc. Go to church or a private religious school if that is what you want.

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financed by a non-profit group,


Ah so I don't have to pay as much tax then right? Wrong
This post was edited on 1/21/17 at 6:27 pm
Posted by aVatiger
Water
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 6:26 pm to
I love clicking on the OT and seeing a story from today's local paper because some trashy arse mom named tonya in my hometown is one of the many locals just trying get that easy $$$
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
9299 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 6:29 pm to
Good. If its a public school, they shouldnt have bible study as a graded course unless its in some context of history.

After school clubs, fine. Not part of the curriculum though.
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