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re: Mississippi and Hurricane Katrina: the forgotten Landmass

Posted on 8/25/15 at 1:30 pm to
Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
7612 posts
Posted on 8/25/15 at 1:30 pm to
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Yep. The evacuation plan called for the use of school buses to get people out but Mayor Dipshit put the plan into place too late and the buses were scratched because the roads were already a cluster frick.
And the evacuation plan wasn't so great and came too late (in my opinion).

New Orleans evacuation for Katrina:




vs Rita evacuation in Houston:



I know it isn't apples to apples, but you must admit just having half of the traffic headed out was pretty stupid.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101474 posts
Posted on 8/25/15 at 1:34 pm to
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Yep. The evacuation plan called for the use of school buses to get people out but Mayor Dipshit put the plan into place too late and the buses were scratched because the roads were already a cluster frick.


Ehhh, most the people who stayed weren't getting into a freaking schoolbus to go God knows where, unless at the point of a gun - which wasn't happening under anyone's "plan."
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 8/25/15 at 1:36 pm to
Katrina killed 235 people in Mississippi. About a dozen in my small town of Ocean Springs and 100's later the following year who just couldn't deal with stress of losing everything being fricked by snake Farm etc. We lost about 20% of our population initially.

I don't think Katina didn't kill a single person in New Orleans. The levee failure killed thousands. Whether that was COE fault or whatever, it was clearly a sub standard levee.

So we were damaged by a Catastrophic Cat 4 storm while New Orleans was damages by Catastrophic engineering failure.

This post was edited on 8/25/15 at 1:38 pm
Posted by RichardPikchures
Rhode Island
Member since Jun 2015
11 posts
Posted on 8/25/15 at 1:40 pm to
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Um...some people had no means to leave. Some people didn't want to leave pets. Some tried, but turned back because the traffic was so bad. There were plenty reasons people couldn't leave


Never said anything to the contrary. Just stated that we are acting as if the city "treated it's citizens a certain way". There's always been the belief that no one cared about those people and we were okay with them dying in the storm. I'm just saying that it's not exactly fair to say that the government didn't step up and basically undertake a rescue of the most massive scale probably ever seen. Should have been more prepared, no doubt. But I also don't think it's fair to treat them like murderers either.

Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 8/25/15 at 1:41 pm to
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Plaquemines Paris didnt get shite.


The 19 people that lived there were justly compensated.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39584 posts
Posted on 8/25/15 at 1:44 pm to
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About a dozen in my small town of Ocean Springs


I'm from there. Town really lucked out overall relatively speaking. That quick elevation change from the shoreline was a huge help.

Pretty wild time thinking back on it.
This post was edited on 8/25/15 at 1:44 pm
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 8/25/15 at 1:46 pm to
I agree one of only downtown's to completely survive. People in Gulf Park estates, Gulf Hills, and along the beach didnt do as well.
Posted by CaliforniaTiger
The Land of Fruits and Nuts
Member since Dec 2007
5303 posts
Posted on 8/25/15 at 1:53 pm to
that's the way it was when it happened---all about NOLA and hardly a thing about where she came on land.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
203072 posts
Posted on 8/25/15 at 2:01 pm to
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So we were damaged by a Catastrophic Cat 4 storm while New Orleans was damages by Catastrophic engineering failure.




I can't argue this... If the levees don't fail, N.O. is spared a lot of death and destruction.........
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51297 posts
Posted on 8/25/15 at 2:08 pm to
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I agree one of only downtown's to completely survive. People in Gulf Park estates, Gulf Hills, and along the beach didnt do as well.


Are there a ton of empty lots still around on the MS coast?
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
18664 posts
Posted on 8/25/15 at 2:14 pm to
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Are there a ton of empty lots still around on the MS coast?


Yes, still a lot of slabs also.


LINK
This post was edited on 8/25/15 at 2:17 pm
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51297 posts
Posted on 8/25/15 at 2:16 pm to
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Yes, still a lot of slabs also.


How hard is it to rebuild down there? Just went on Zillow and saw some lots that you can get for dirt cheap considering that you are on the coast.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
18664 posts
Posted on 8/25/15 at 2:18 pm to
Insurance is the biggest obstacle. It is terrible expensive and very hard to get quality insurance.
Posted by Mullet Flap
Lysdexia
Member since Jun 2015
4208 posts
Posted on 8/25/15 at 2:19 pm to
Still tons of abandoned lots/slabs all over the coast

It's still very apparent a massive hurricane bit that place
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51297 posts
Posted on 8/25/15 at 2:19 pm to
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Insurance is the biggest obstacle. It is terrible expensive and very hard to get quality insurance.


That's what I thought. Feel bad for those landowners. They're pretty much stuck with the property for now if they've decided to settle elsewhere.

I see construction ready lots going for <50k that would fetch 200k-300k in the SC lowcountry given the proximity to the beach.
This post was edited on 8/25/15 at 2:22 pm
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24432 posts
Posted on 8/25/15 at 2:19 pm to
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that's the way it was when it happened---all about NOLA and hardly a thing about where she came on land.


Where did "she come on land" exactly? It was one of the largest storms to ever hit the gulf coast. It was up the mouth of the river's arse first pushing so much water around and then just slowly moved north. Mississippi was technically her 3rd landfall after Florida and Buras.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98887 posts
Posted on 8/25/15 at 2:22 pm to
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
18664 posts
Posted on 8/25/15 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

see construction ready lots going for <50k that would fetch 200k-300k in the SC lowcountry given the proximity to the beach


Some good investments for sure.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24432 posts
Posted on 8/25/15 at 2:45 pm to
This may deserve it's own thread. Just something random I've been thinking about lately. How much different would it have been if smart phones were everywhere like they are today? If you remember, texting wasn't nearly as popular in 2005 as it is today. That was the only way I could keep in contact with my family because calls just weren't going through. Plus you have things like Facebook and Twitter now so information would've been everywhere.
This post was edited on 8/25/15 at 2:46 pm
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101474 posts
Posted on 8/25/15 at 2:46 pm to
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If you remember, texting wasn't nearly as popular in 2005 as it is today. That was the only way I could keep in contact with my family because calls just weren't going through.


I wonder for how many people that experience was the first time they ever texted. I know it was for me.
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