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re: Mike Brown attempted to take officer's gun
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:12 pm to RDRGeaux09
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:12 pm to RDRGeaux09
You'll have to forgive me if I take you guarantee with a grain of salt.
The reason I asked you if there would have been the same reaction had the officer been black, is because that exact situation happened in Houma about a month ago, and hardly a word was said
The reason I asked you if there would have been the same reaction had the officer been black, is because that exact situation happened in Houma about a month ago, and hardly a word was said
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Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:14 pm to VetteGuy
I'm saying the officers story doesn't make sense. That the police have long been know to use excessive force against minorities without fear of reprcussion. That the police have held behind this blue wall of silence and minorities typically don't get a fair case against them.
That's what this case looks like to me. And history has proven to be a good indicator of where things are heading with this case
That's what this case looks like to me. And history has proven to be a good indicator of where things are heading with this case
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:17 pm to RDRGeaux09
Why because he has not been charged with anything? This case will be presented in front of a grand jury with all the evidence that is there. They will decide if he should be charged with a crime or not. That is our judicial system sir.
This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:18 pm to RDRGeaux09
And what will happen if he is aquitted? Will innocent people be attacked? Ala Reginald Denny
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:18 pm to RDRGeaux09
quote:
I'm saying the officers story doesn't make sense. That the police have long been know to use excessive force against minorities without fear of reprcussion. That the police have held behind this blue wall of silence and minorities typically don't get a fair case against them.
That's what this case looks like to me. And history has proven to be a good indicator of where things are heading with this case
Well, the good folks of Ferguson haven't exactly been the most hospitable citizens to cops. My boss said he lived in the STL area and used to have to go through Ferguson quite often. He told me it was very common to see cop cars with bullet holes in them or the windows smashed out, and that was 20 years ago. I doubt much has changed since then.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:20 pm to Mrtommorrow1987
Do you with all the evidence you have seen so far have enough evidence to convict the officer? Is there not any reasonable doubt in your mind?
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:21 pm to Mrtommorrow1987
Pants Up!
Dont Loot!
Dont Loot!
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:21 pm to upgrayedd
20 years ago... Key word there. And how could u know if it has changed or if it hasn't. 20 years is a long time
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:22 pm to soccerfüt
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I know Ray (subtle brag). He's an home-grown "expert" for Baylor. This would be as if the Ferguson PD hired their own former forensics expert to be an impartial outside expert. Ray's a pretty cool cat, he will readily tell you that his children's automobiles were involved in three wrecks, all caused by him in his own driveway. He's quite the Fashionista as well.
This had me laughing.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:23 pm to RDRGeaux09
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That the police have long been know to use excessive force against minorities without fear of reprcussion. That the police have held behind this blue wall of silence and minorities typically don't get a fair case against them.
That's almost exactly what I said in my earlier posts.
The facts, including Mike Brown's behavior immediately preceding his death, don't back that up in this case, though.
And nothing excuses the behavior of those citizens. Nothing.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:23 pm to RDRGeaux09
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20 years ago... Key word there. And how could u know if it has changed or if it hasn't. 20 years is a long time
You're right 20 yrs ago same as when you say minorities have been treated differently in the past.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:24 pm to Mrtommorrow1987
All I know is one person is armed one person wasn't. No knife no gun. U mean to tell me that this officer wasn't trained in non lethal take downs. He didn't have mace or a tazer. His first instinct was to use a gun jus because the person was bigger than him. There wasn't any other choice but to shoot the person dead.
That's my evidence
That's my evidence
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:25 pm to RDRGeaux09
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20 years ago... Key word there. And how could u know if it has changed or if it hasn't. 20 years is a long time
From what I've seen from the videos I watched over the past couple months, not much has changed
It's probably changed as much as N Baton Rouge has in the last 20 years.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:26 pm to RDRGeaux09
What if Brown tried to take the gun during the first scuffle. Why would the officer risk having only a tazer in a gun fight after that?
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:26 pm to Mrtommorrow1987
And there still excessive force used against minorities today... Which we have evidence of.. U have no evidence of whether Ferguson has changed or not
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:27 pm to RDRGeaux09
I'm starting to believe that you're 14.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:28 pm to VetteGuy
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Look, I've got no problem with disenfranchised folks assuming the cops were lying. To not think that cops take advantage of poor or minority folks because they can is to not be a realist. Not all cops, all the time, but plenty do. That said, Mike Brown, based on the video I saw previous to his death, was acting like a punk-arse thug. The cop had no previous issues regarding civil rights or use of force complaints. With MB's blood inside the car, I think the "eyewitnesses" are straight up lying.
This.
I don't particularly care for cops myself.
However, in this case, the cop in question has a clean record and everything he's said has been backed up by physical evidence. Brown's blood is in the car. Brown's torn skin in is the car. Brown has gun powder residue on him. Brown has a barrel burn on his finger.
As for the witnesses... there's a Russian saying that's appropriate here, "He lies like an eyewitness."
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:28 pm to RDRGeaux09
By the way I'm really not trying to race bait, but I'm curious why you haven't addressed the question I've asked you more than once in this thread
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:29 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
If being the key there. We know Wilson was armed. We know Brown wasn't.
There's not a damn thing u can say that can make me believe he charged an armed officer.
There's not a damn thing u can say that can make me believe he charged an armed officer.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:30 pm to KG6
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In not saying the guy is a liar. Just like in the case of a defense attorney, their job is to build a story with the evidence they have to prove the story they believe to be true. His story will always be built to side with the family. I feel the states case has more credibility since they are not looking necessarily to corroborate a particular story (unless they are corrupt). When he worked for the state, he had a different motive.
His report contradicted key eyewitness accounts that said he was shot in the back. If he just toes the line, why would he entirely contradict and discredit a key witness?
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