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re: Married OT: how do you perceive your wife's claims of sexism at her workplace?
Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:55 pm to G Vice
Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:55 pm to G Vice
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Add to that, there is some sort of unspoken gay privilege that permits the gay dude to call your wife a bitch (without impunity) during the course of conversation, but you cannot.
yep, different rules for them and other minorities, lots of gays where I work, seems like they almost try to bait you into saying something they can go to HR with
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Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:56 pm to yellowfin
Women are generally the drama problems in any work place.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:58 pm to StrongSafety
Tell her to maturely and kindly tell whomever uses the sexist language that it is offensive.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:58 pm to StrongSafety
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I was recently talking to a female friend that was deeply disturbed by the sexist language that was used at her job. She is the only female in the company, and she didn't not like how some of their business partners were referred to as "female lawyer" and "female doctor" and etc. she was worked about how these implicit sentiments could seep into their business practices.
So it complied me to ask the OT: how do y'all perceive your own spouses claims of a sexist work environment?
I can't make heads or tails of your anecdote here, but my wife has some very real issues with being an attorney in the south, even though her law firm, and in particular her section, are comparatively quite aware of the inherent sexism in the legal field. Now, some of her concerns I think she needs to just fricking grow up and deal with, but others I can legitimately see as major issues that the firm will need to address to maintain women in their work force.
This post was edited on 9/15/14 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:59 pm to LoveThatMoney
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my wife have some very real issues with being an attorney in the south,
if she's smart she'll use it to her advantage and roll with it
Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:05 pm to 777Tiger
Don't you know that women can't along with anyone male of female.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:06 pm to yellowfin
Sounds like she needs to go find another job.
At work, we have 1 girl there. She takes calls for us and plans out contract work stuff.
The stuff she has heard us say because we end up forgetting a girl works with us, would probably get most people fired at their jobs.
She just shakes her head and just continues doing what she does. She said for what I get paid, I'm not about to worry about that nonsense. I can't make anywhere close to what I'm making somewhere else
At work, we have 1 girl there. She takes calls for us and plans out contract work stuff.
The stuff she has heard us say because we end up forgetting a girl works with us, would probably get most people fired at their jobs.
She just shakes her head and just continues doing what she does. She said for what I get paid, I'm not about to worry about that nonsense. I can't make anywhere close to what I'm making somewhere else
Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:06 pm to The Torch
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Don't you know that women can't along with anyone male of female.
that's why I said if she's smart
Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:09 pm to StrongSafety
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So it complied me to ask the OT
Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:15 pm to StrongSafety
She has had weird comments from this older guy she's had a rotation with before, but she just laughs them off. If it doesn't bother her, it really doesn't bother me.
This post was edited on 9/15/14 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:33 pm to Epic Cajun
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She has had weird comments from this older guy she's had a rotation with before, but she just laughs them off. If it doesn't bother her, it really doesn't bother me.
It's hard to say whether not she's laughing it off to get to the task at hand (but is actually really disturbed by the comments) or if she actually thinks it's funny
Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:35 pm to StrongSafety
I'm mainly just trying to get into the heads of the "average" OTer and why they think that it's okay to make insensitive and offensive remarks about people because people just "need to have thick skin and grow up." That's not to say that all adults shouldn't develop thicker skin as they get older.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:36 pm to StrongSafety
I'm complied to exit this thread.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:37 pm to StrongSafety
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"average" OTer
those two should not be used in the same sentence
Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:37 pm to StrongSafety
She doesn't feel threatened by the guy at all, she was talking to our friends about his comment the other day and laughing about it. I talked to her in private and she said he's just a weird old guy who makes inappropriate jokes. I think the comments weird her out, but not in a serious way.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:46 pm to StrongSafety
it would probably get obnoxious if my coworkers felt the need to always say I was the "insert descriptor" person at the office.
like if I was the only white dude at a place I'd rather not be known as "the white guy" who worked there.
like if I was the only white dude at a place I'd rather not be known as "the white guy" who worked there.
This post was edited on 9/15/14 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 9/15/14 at 3:07 pm to yellowfin
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but would love a bitchy female lawyer on my side
uh, no you wouldn't.
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my wife has some very real issues with being an attorney in the south
as the old farts die off, this will get to be less prevalent. If she is willing to work the slavish hours required, she can do just as well as her male counterparts. in fact, some clients really want women and minorities to be represented in firms.
This post was edited on 9/15/14 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 9/15/14 at 3:35 pm to Mung
The world is full of douchebags. If you spend all your time worrying about them then you are also a douchebag.
Grow up and quit worrying about stupid people and their stupid shite.
Grow up and quit worrying about stupid people and their stupid shite.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 3:36 pm to Mung
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as the old farts die off, this will get to be less prevalent. If she is willing to work the slavish hours required, she can do just as well as her male counterparts. in fact, some clients really want women and minorities to be represented in firms.
She knows this and she has no issues with clients. In fact, she is crushing it.
It more has to do with the ingrained need in men, particularly those in these types of law firms, to "protect" women, which in reality only serves to alienate, frustrate, and stunt the growth of their young women attorneys.
I'm sure it's similar in most corporate environments, but women seeking to improve in these types of environments are often faced with the harsh truth that many men, particularly in the south, still harbor the desire to have a "traditional" society wherein women cook and clean for their man while he makes the money. With that mentality comes issues that arise almost unconsciously, like the apparently innocent conversations about parenting and the fact that mothers are bad mothers when they aren't there to raise their kids but fathers can work 80 hours a week and see their kids on the holidays and be perfect role models.
I can see it being difficult to overcome this type of stuff when it is ingrained so deeply into not just those you work with, but men throughout society. And the same is true of women. You can read innumerable articles from working mothers who feel like utter failures as parents (or as employees) because they work too much (or not enough due to their family life). The career-life balance is particularly difficult for professional women as we transition from a society that includes more professional women as opposed to women who either stayed at home or worked jobs that required fewer hours.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 3:45 pm to LoveThatMoney
most law school classes have been 50% or more women these last 10-15 years. The profession has no choice but to change, but the old guys are still around and they dominate as the senior partners and judges.
Ultimately, in a firm, the only thing that matters is your ability to make money and attract and keep clients. If she can turn into a rainmaker she will be highly desired everywhere.
huh?
Ultimately, in a firm, the only thing that matters is your ability to make money and attract and keep clients. If she can turn into a rainmaker she will be highly desired everywhere.
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hardhead
huh?
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