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re: Marine and Soldier recover U. S. Flag Disrespectfully Displayed
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:02 pm to Ponchy Tiger
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:02 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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Absolutely no one, I don't care who they are will disrespect the flag in such a way in front of me.
I know you post on the Poli Board, did you give this speech to any of the right wingers after Obama's election?
Lots of avatars where upside down flags.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:02 pm to lsupride87
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Yeh these so called right wing conservatives in here are sounding an awful lot like the left
That's whats wrong with this fricking country too many ppl see everything in a right or left issue. We need to view more issues as American issues. It shouldn't matter to either side all of us should respect and protect the flag.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:02 pm to MadtownTiger
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Good for them, you might have a right to display the flag however you want, but I'd like to see you stop me from using mine rights to take it back and fix it.
Uh.....you have no such right.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:02 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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Would I fight? You damn right I would.
You would attack a civilian for that? You should be ashamed of yourself.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:03 pm to tketaco
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This is a left wing / right wing issue?
Yes.
Right=Beat the person "disrespecting the flag" with no consequences because 'Murica!
Left=1st Amendment guarantees right to protest in such a manner without fear of reprisal from the government (which means the government should prosecute to the fullest extent of the law should a citizen break the law while attempting to hinder said protest)
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:06 pm to Napoleon
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I know you post on the Poli Board, did you give this speech to any of the right wingers after Obama's election? Lots of avatars where upside down flags.
I said it then and I will say it now that is 100% wrong IMO. I don't give a shite who you voted for. Now am I a Obama voter? Absolutely not, but the American public elected and I have to live with that, even though I think it was a huge mistake. with all of that being said its still no reason to disrespect the flag. Now you can laugh at me tell me I am stupid I really don't give a frick. But I am proud to be a American and a Veteran and proud of the freedoms that are represented by that flag.
This post was edited on 4/1/14 at 7:07 pm
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:07 pm to MadtownTiger
quote:you sound ignorant
but I'd like to see you stop me from using mine rights to take it back and fix it.
You don't have a right to take anyone's property
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:07 pm to LuckySo-n-So
I don't believe it is. I'm sure there is a small percentage of left leaning politicals that would feel the same way that a lot of right leaning politicals about the same issue. I can promise the independents aren't void of it.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:08 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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But I am proud of to me a American and a Veteran and proud of the freedoms that are represented by that flag.
You are proud of the freedoms yet you admit that you would take the same freedoms of others by force? That makes no sense whatsoever.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:09 pm to tketaco
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I don't believe it is. I'm sure there is a small percentage of left leaning politicals that would feel the same way that a lot of right leaning politicals about the same issue. I can promise the independents aren't void of it.
Of course there are exceptions on both sides, but in general, what I said is true.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:12 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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with all of that being said its still no reason to disrespect the flag. Now you can laugh at me tell me I am stupid I really don't give a frick. But I am proud to be a American and a Veteran and proud of the freedoms that are represented by that flag.
Idk if you realize this, but the stance you take is much more disrespectful to the flag than the political speech made by burning it. You are saying that you will suppress someone's right to conduct in political speech, a right that is embodied in everything this nation stands for. I don't think you realize just how hypocritical you are being.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:20 pm to LuckySo-n-So
I can understand the generalizations.
I do have my right leanings. And I did grow up Catholic. Doesn't stop me from supporting issues that go against the church's dogma and go against far right thinking. But the flag issue isn't a political issue to myself. It is a passionate issue to the eyes of the beholder. And my knee jerk reaction is a scowl and the rolling of the eyes. The guys chasing them down, I understand where they're coming from. The idea of Veterans scaring off a "brave" protester on a moped makes me smile. The Veterans did not have a right to retaliate, but I understand.
I do have my right leanings. And I did grow up Catholic. Doesn't stop me from supporting issues that go against the church's dogma and go against far right thinking. But the flag issue isn't a political issue to myself. It is a passionate issue to the eyes of the beholder. And my knee jerk reaction is a scowl and the rolling of the eyes. The guys chasing them down, I understand where they're coming from. The idea of Veterans scaring off a "brave" protester on a moped makes me smile. The Veterans did not have a right to retaliate, but I understand.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:20 pm to UpToPar
It is not an issue of right and left for veterans, imo. The flag is a big part of the military life, they raise and lower it in ceremony every day. Part of the ceremony for completing basic training for me was two people carrying the flag up and down the rows in front of us while God Bless the USA played. I think military members and veterans especially if they have served in a war have a view of the stars and stripes that is different from those who have not.
This post was edited on 4/1/14 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:21 pm to UpToPar
frick the constitution!! An emotional connection to an inanimate object means more than some silly fundamental rights wrote on some paper.... Murcia frick yeah!!!11
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:38 pm to SuperSaint
I felt the same way about flag drapped coffins and Westboro Baptist.
Felt like a jackass for disrespecting their rights. I'm sure everyone felt they needed to be treated with respect.
Felt like a jackass for disrespecting their rights. I'm sure everyone felt they needed to be treated with respect.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:43 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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But I am proud to be a American and a Veteran and proud of the freedoms that are represented by that flag.
by violating the constitution that protects those freedoms represented by that flag.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:53 pm to MadtownTiger
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Good for them, you might have a right to display the flag however you want, but I'd like to see you stop me from using mine rights to take it back and fix it.
Except you don't have the right to steal someone's property. That is actually against the law. You don't have the right to threaten someone because you don't agree with their opinions. The entire idea of America is for allowing this nonsense.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 8:09 pm to tketaco
So a poster makes a thread posting pics of Allah being silly cause said poster thinks he's an adorable silly man (a statement protected by free speech and not hateful in no way). What the end result should be and what the result will actually be?
I think a certain demographic (minority demographic) will have an outcry out of emotion along with smaller other groups defending them. Admin whacks thread then bans poster. Does anyone else see this outcome? Does it come as a surprise? No, which is why I won't make such a thread. But if you want to challenge that in the name of your argument of free speech no matter what. Feel free to martyr yourself.
I think a certain demographic (minority demographic) will have an outcry out of emotion along with smaller other groups defending them. Admin whacks thread then bans poster. Does anyone else see this outcome? Does it come as a surprise? No, which is why I won't make such a thread. But if you want to challenge that in the name of your argument of free speech no matter what. Feel free to martyr yourself.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 8:12 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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But its not the smartest thing disrespect and or destroy the very symbol of this freedom. Soldiers, Veterans and many patriotic Americans get highly offended by such actions.
i hope they never bitch about the "PC Police" or "whiney liberals" then
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